Made members working

[Cheech]

Michael D was just talking about an old timer in jackie nose crew was a bus driver.

[Cheech]

And im sure there were barbers back in the day that were made.

[cavita]

Off the top of my head as far as Rockford goes:
Phil "The Tailor" Emordeno worked at Prestige Custom Tailors, hence the nickname
Sebastian "Knobby" Gulotta was General Manager at Continental Liquors
Salvatore Galluzzo owned many pizza parlors/restaurants
Frank Buscemi owned a vending machine company and food distribution company

[DoubleZ]

A lot of the Detroit guys own restaurants or food/produce companies. Toccos had a linen service forever and real estate developments. Lapiana is ridiculously wealthy after selling his health insurance company for like $50 million.

Completely agree, Adam. Historically and today, many of the Detroit guys on paper have made enough to never lift a finger again. We know that's not been their MO, however.

As one example, Jack and Tony Tocco had a mini-laundry empire (pun-intended) owning large linen services in multiple major cities, including:
Detroit - Melrose Linen and at least 4 subsidiary companies under this Melrose umbrella. Saginaw - Robertson Uninform and Linen Supply, and in Indianapolis, IN - Lafayette Linen & Janitorial. Potentially even a chemical company in Missouri that supplied products to these linen services.

Jack Tocco's self-reported net-worth in 1974 was approximately $10.5 million in today's USD. That was before JT became boss of the family. I can't even fathom what his net-worth was when he passed away in 2014, 40 years later.

[Wiseguy]

You know what I think is bullshit? You should become CPAs. I'm serious. Certified Public Assholes.This way you could have your legitimate businesses...and your books...and your workman's comp...and your Blue Cross...and your Blue Shield. And on top of that, you go pay your taxes, all right? You think I got a button to become some kind of straight-up businessman? Get the fuck outta here.

[Etna]

Just watched Penisi viewers questions video...

Was shocked to hear "most members penisi knew have LEGAL jobs to explain income"

I gotta ASSUME that he was more implying the ASSOCIATES ....?

I just cant see MADE MEMBERS actually punching a clock.... I cant even hold a legal 9-5 how tf is frank camuso punching a clock

Im hoping he was including the "most members" means that they own businesses and work em that way...?

How many members can we think of with real legit jobs

I'm surprised you find this to be surprising? It's the mob of 2023, not the 1980s.

Legal can be a lot of things. It doesn't mean a mob guy is assistant manager over the swing shift at Walmart.

Water is wet and the sky is blue. My point is, it only seems obvious to have a legitimate job - regardless of the type for tax purposes.

[johnny_scootch]

And im sure there were barbers back in the day that were made.

I forget who but one of Joe Bonanno’s top guys in the old days was a barber and if I recall correctly he eventually became head of the barbers union or had some involvement with it. I want to say Tartamella but I’m not positive it was him. I haven’t read A Man of Honor in a very long time.

[motorfab]

Russell Andaloro of the Bonanno Crime Family was a school music teacher

Joe Bonanno's son-in-law was a dentist. Sorry, I forgot his first name but the family name was Genovese and he was a member of the San Jose Crime Family

Joe Cerrito of San Jose & Dominic Longo of LA were owner of cars dealership

A lot of 'ndrangheta members kept a legit job. Mike Racco & Vincent Deleo in Toronto were bakers, Antonio Sergi in Griffith, Australia owned a winery, Pietro Calipari also from Griffith was a shoe repairman ...

[newera_212]

You know what I think is bullshit? You should become CPAs. I'm serious. Certified Public Assholes.This way you could have your legitimate businesses...and your books...and your workman's comp...and your Blue Cross...and your Blue Shield. And on top of that, you go pay your taxes, all right? You think I got a button to become some kind of straight-up businessman? Get the fuck outta here.

LOL

[Adam]

A lot of the Detroit guys own restaurants or food/produce companies. Toccos had a linen service forever and real estate developments. Lapiana is ridiculously wealthy after selling his health insurance company for like $50 million.

Completely agree, Adam. Historically and today, many of the Detroit guys on paper have made enough to never lift a finger again. We know that's not been their MO, however.

As one example, Jack and Tony Tocco had a mini-laundry empire (pun-intended) owning large linen services in multiple major cities, including:
Detroit - Melrose Linen and at least 4 subsidiary companies under this Melrose umbrella. Saginaw - Robertson Uninform and Linen Supply, and in Indianapolis, IN - Lafayette Linen & Janitorial. Potentially even a chemical company in Missouri that supplied products to these linen services.

Jack Tocco's self-reported net-worth in 1974 was approximately $10.5 million in today's USD. That was before JT became boss of the family. I can't even fathom what his net-worth was when he passed away in 2014, 40 years later.

There's a wiretap from I believe the Giacalone's Home Juice Company in the early-mid 1960s where Michael Polizzi was complaining about making $50,000 from his regular legal business dealings and about the same amount from gambling/illegal activities. That was his complaint.

[DoubleZ]

A lot of the Detroit guys own restaurants or food/produce companies. Toccos had a linen service forever and real estate developments. Lapiana is ridiculously wealthy after selling his health insurance company for like $50 million.

Completely agree, Adam. Historically and today, many of the Detroit guys on paper have made enough to never lift a finger again. We know that's not been their MO, however.

As one example, Jack and Tony Tocco had a mini-laundry empire (pun-intended) owning large linen services in multiple major cities, including:
Detroit - Melrose Linen and at least 4 subsidiary companies under this Melrose umbrella. Saginaw - Robertson Uninform and Linen Supply, and in Indianapolis, IN - Lafayette Linen & Janitorial. Potentially even a chemical company in Missouri that supplied products to these linen services.

Jack Tocco's self-reported net-worth in 1974 was approximately $10.5 million in today's USD. That was before JT became boss of the family. I can't even fathom what his net-worth was when he passed away in 2014, 40 years later.

There's a wiretap from I believe the Giacalone's Home Juice Company in the early-mid 1960s where Michael Polizzi was complaining about making $50,000 from his regular legal business dealings and about the same amount from gambling/illegal activities. That was his complaint.

Great reference, Adam. Lol, yeah poor Polizzi with his measly $1M/year income. He soon got his wish, getting into more money, and more heat, with the Frontier skim and bust soon after.

Those Home Juice wiretaps are great, so many good nuggets. I just read something funny about Home Juice and the Giacalone’s. The Giacalone’s would cut the orange juice with water and added sugar at the Detroit bottling plant for greater profits. So Home Juice had a consistent taste everywhere in the US but Michigan (and Ontario) haha.

[Dr031718]

A lot of the Detroit guys own restaurants or food/produce companies. Toccos had a linen service forever and real estate developments. Lapiana is ridiculously wealthy after selling his health insurance company for like $50 million.

Completely agree, Adam. Historically and today, many of the Detroit guys on paper have made enough to never lift a finger again. We know that's not been their MO, however.

As one example, Jack and Tony Tocco had a mini-laundry empire (pun-intended) owning large linen services in multiple major cities, including:
Detroit - Melrose Linen and at least 4 subsidiary companies under this Melrose umbrella. Saginaw - Robertson Uninform and Linen Supply, and in Indianapolis, IN - Lafayette Linen & Janitorial. Potentially even a chemical company in Missouri that supplied products to these linen services.

Jack Tocco's self-reported net-worth in 1974 was approximately $10.5 million in today's USD. That was before JT became boss of the family. I can't even fathom what his net-worth was when he passed away in 2014, 40 years later.

There's a wiretap from I believe the Giacalone's Home Juice Company in the early-mid 1960s where Michael Polizzi was complaining about making $50,000 from his regular legal business dealings and about the same amount from gambling/illegal activities. That was his complaint.

Great reference, Adam. Lol, yeah poor Polizzi with his measly $1M/year income. He soon got his wish, getting into more money, and more heat, with the Frontier skim and bust soon after.

Those Home Juice wiretaps are great, so many good nuggets. I just read something funny about Home Juice and the Giacalone’s. The Giacalone’s would cut the orange juice with water and added sugar at the Detroit bottling plant for greater profits. So Home Juice had a consistent taste everywhere in the US but Michigan (and Ontario) haha.

Where can one read the home juice wiretaps?

[bluehouse]

Isnt this an oxymoron?The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.If you are actually working at a construction site whats the point of being in the mafia and risking jail time.Also if you are working it means your not making enough illigal money.Also its very easy to launder dirty money so its not the reason.Its one thing to own a business its another to actually work 8 hours a day at a job site

[aleksandrored]

Michelle Navarra, Corleone's boss, was a doctor.

[johnny_scootch]

The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.

It's not the whole point, evidenced by the fact that within Cosa Nostra specifically there have members who were business owners, priests, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, bakers, electricians, union officials, barbers, dentists, doctors and so on. That's not to say they don't have their fair share of stickup men, bookmakers, loan sharks, drug dealers, leg breakers and murderers.

Crime isn't the main point of the society but it takes all kinds of meat to make a good stew.