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Any number of reasons. Info obtained from wiretaps was inadmissible at the time or it could have come from confidential informants who were not willing to testify. Or it could have just been estimates on the FBI's part but they could not find enough corroborating evidence to prosecute.
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In addition, during the 1940's the Chicago Outfit allegedly was also one of the investors in the Flamingo Casino Hotel, mainly Accardo and Charles and Rocco Fischetti who in turn managed to send their brother Joe as their representative in Vegas regarding their interests. The Flamingo began operating in December, 1946, and so the next year Ricca and Campagna were both early out of jail and also allegedly both received interests in the same joint. The interesting thing was that Siegels girlfriend was in fact an Outfit girl or in other words, she started in Chicago as a first class hooker for Outfit Jewish racketeer Joe Epstein who worked under legendary Jewish mobster Jack Guzik, who above all was a pimp. For example, during that period one of Guzik's lieutenants Gus Alex brought many of his political and business friends to the Flamingo, while he was also known for staying with his wife and girlfriends for quite a long time.
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All these Cleveland guys have been reported to get skim money at one time or another. Frank milano , Al Polizzi John Scalish Milton rockman John angersola
Jack licavoli , Leo Moceri , Dominic Sospirato , Angelo Lonardo , russel papalardo , bill presser

I wouldn’t be surprised that tony delsanter got some as well once he was promoted to consigliere and peanuts tronolone as well
Frank brancato and John demarco May of gotten a taste
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Tommy Sinito and Joseph Gallo were also getting a piece of the Cleveland skim.


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I believe Virginia Hill became Murray Humphrey gf eventually. In The Outfit (which was a very hard read) it said Hill started being the bag last that would take the money to the bosses.

was any of the Siegel money invested in the Flamingo that he was killed for Chicago money??
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Snakes wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 3:55 am Any number of reasons. Info obtained from wiretaps was inadmissible at the time or it could have come from confidential informants who were not willing to testify. Or it could have just been estimates on the FBI's part but they could not find enough corroborating evidence to prosecute.
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Wiseguy wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 9:42 pm Capeci listed the monthly skim amounts from 1960-1965 that the FBI leaked to Life Magazine reporter Sandy Smith...

Genovese family - $50,000

Chicago - $65,000+

Cleveland's John Scalish - $52,000

Meyer Lansky and partners - $80,000
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Frank wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 6:44 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 9:42 pm Capeci listed the monthly skim amounts from 1960-1965 that the FBI leaked to Life Magazine reporter Sandy Smith...

Genovese family - $50,000

Chicago - $65,000+

Cleveland's John Scalish - $52,000

Meyer Lansky and partners - $80,000
Great info bro
Here are those totals adjusted for inflation...

The $50,000 a month for the Genovese family in 1965 would be about $400,000 a month today.

The $65,000+,a month for the Outfit in 1965 would be over $520,000 a month today.

The $52,000 a month for John Scalish/Cleveland in 1965 would be over $417,000 a month today.

The $80,000 a month for Lansky and his partners in 1965 would be over $640,000 a month today.
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@Wiseguy: 1963 was 55 years ago. $1 Dollar back then would be close to $8 Dollars now. I noticed you used 8 as the multiplier. I agree. I think your numbers are pretty accurate.
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Confederate wrote: Wed May 23, 2018 9:47 pm @Wiseguy: 1963 was 55 years ago. $1 Dollar back then would be close to $8 Dollars now. I noticed you used 8 as the multiplier. I agree. I think your numbers are pretty accurate.
Well I just plugged them into an inflation calculator...

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so that was in 1965...
strawman case was early 80s? 82??
we're they skimming casinos that whole time?
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:03 am so that was in 1965...
strawman case was early 80s? 82??
we're they skimming casinos that whole time?
I think that the skimming somehow transformed through the years, from owning and having shares to importing indoviduals who skimmed the money for them. In plane words they always found a way
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Villain wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:03 am so that was in 1965...
strawman case was early 80s? 82??
we're they skimming casinos that whole time?
I think that the skimming somehow transformed through the years, from owning and having shares to importing indoviduals who skimmed the money for them. In plane words they always found a way
Isn't that the truth. Some of those top level Mafia guys would have been very successful in strictly legit businesses with some white collar crime attached to it, you know, like a lot of the high level "legit businessmen" of today. LOL
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Confederate wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 1:08 am
Villain wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:03 am so that was in 1965...
strawman case was early 80s? 82??
we're they skimming casinos that whole time?
I think that the skimming somehow transformed through the years, from owning and having shares to importing indoviduals who skimmed the money for them. In plane words they always found a way
Isn't that the truth. Some of those top level Mafia guys would have been very successful in strictly legit businesses with some white collar crime attached to it, you know, like a lot of the high level "legit businessmen" of today. LOL
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Confederate wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 1:08 am
Villain wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:39 am
JeremyTheJew wrote: Thu May 24, 2018 12:03 am so that was in 1965...
strawman case was early 80s? 82??
we're they skimming casinos that whole time?
I think that the skimming somehow transformed through the years, from owning and having shares to importing indoviduals who skimmed the money for them. In plane words they always found a way
Isn't that the truth. Some of those top level Mafia guys would have been very successful in strictly legit businesses with some white collar crime attached to it, you know, like a lot of the high level "legit businessmen" of today. LOL
Well thats one of the main reasons for which the "legit" guys doesnt want to get involved in memberships these days or in othet words they dont want to be labeled
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