Made members working

[bluehouse]

The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.

It's not the whole point, evidenced by the fact that within Cosa Nostra specifically there have members who were business owners, priests, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, bakers, electricians, union officials, barbers, dentists, doctors and so on. That's not to say they don't have their fair share of stickup men, bookmakers, loan sharks, drug dealers, leg breakers and murderers.

Crime isn't the main point of the society but it takes all kinds of meat to make a good stew.

Trust me a guy making 10k a week selling coke isnt going to work a fulltime job.Like i said theres a difference between someone owning a construction company and some working on a jobsite.Do you think the chin or carlo gambino ever had a fulltme job.Even broksters like lefty ruggirio didnt work

[johnny_scootch]

The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.

It's not the whole point, evidenced by the fact that within Cosa Nostra specifically there have members who were business owners, priests, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, bakers, electricians, union officials, barbers, dentists, doctors and so on. That's not to say they don't have their fair share of stickup men, bookmakers, loan sharks, drug dealers, leg breakers and murderers.

Crime isn't the main point of the society but it takes all kinds of meat to make a good stew.

Trust me a guy making 10k a week selling coke isnt going to work a fulltime job.Like i said theres a difference between someone owning a construction company and some working on a jobsite.Do you think the chin or carlo gambino ever had a fulltme job.Even broksters like lefty ruggirio didnt work

Yea there are many guys who don’t work but like I said there are also plenty of guys who do and it’s always been that way.

I’m recalling Gambino sent word to DeCavalcante to read Joe Tiger the riot act because his guys weren’t working. DeCavalcante called Joe in and said these guys are ‘friends’ and they have to be kept on they can’t be laid off, it’s his responsibility to keep them working. These weren’t no show jobs these were made guys going to work each day at construction sites and this is in the 1960’s. People outside the life have a picture built up in their heads where it’s all just a bunch of guys who sit around scheming and plotting all day smoking cigars. Not realizing there are also guys who will lay bricks all day then collect loan shark payments and throw people beatings if need be for their captain at night.

[AntComello]

If the guy making 10k a week selling coke is smart he will have a legit job. It’s just common sense if you’re a good criminal you don’t want the whole world specifically law enforcement knowing you’re loaded and have no legal source of income. All the successful drug dealers i know are all 40+ working a 9-5. Just my opinion.

[Newyorkempire]

Russell Andaloro of the Bonanno Crime Family was a school music teacher

Joe Bonanno's son-in-law was a dentist. Sorry, I forgot his first name but the family name was Genovese and he was a member of the San Jose Crime Family

Joe Cerrito of San Jose & Dominic Longo of LA were owner of cars dealership

A lot of 'ndrangheta members kept a legit job. Mike Racco & Vincent Deleo in Toronto were bakers, Antonio Sergi in Griffith, Australia owned a winery, Pietro Calipari also from Griffith was a shoe repairman ...

Proof again members CAN be teachers

[CabriniGreen]

What’s that life really about then? Why do people join? The easy answer is the money but there’s more to it than that clearly. I say that because of the fact that so many are working 9 to 5

Power... plain and simple.

[CabriniGreen]

The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.

It's not the whole point, evidenced by the fact that within Cosa Nostra specifically there have members who were business owners, priests, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, bakers, electricians, union officials, barbers, dentists, doctors and so on. That's not to say they don't have their fair share of stickup men, bookmakers, loan sharks, drug dealers, leg breakers and murderers.

Crime isn't the main point of the society but it takes all kinds of meat to make a good stew.

The point is a MAFIOSI, (not necessarily a gang member) is supposed to be self sufficient. He needs to stand on his feet. It can be from either side of the street, even a mix, but a man has to be able to take care of himself.


A very good dramatization was in the Godfather movie. When Vito was forced to give up his job to a mafiosi. He might have been content with that modest life, if not for the AFFRONTERY, the humiliation of not being able to provide. That shit is intolerable. I bet MANY men in Sicily, and a lot of the early immigrants, joined the mafia because they COULDNT get legit work, of the type that would enable them to feed their families and maintain dignity.

When the State, or whatever ruling apparatus tells you, that you arnt qualified to earn a living, arnt entitled to respect as a man, YOU RESIST THAT. You reject it outright as an illegitimate institution. YOU decide you are worthy of society, NOT SOCIETY. You define YOURSELF.

[Pmac2]

My guess. 85 percent of made guys understand 65 who are not collecting SSI or some bugs disability check have a job were they show up and work. I bet there's more then 70 percent in some trade. You don't work you don't eat simple n plain. Bosses and caps probably don't want known drug dealers in there inner circle. I'm talking a guy whose selling grams and ounces of coke or pills of any kind. A money man probably different

[johnny_scootch]

I’m recalling Gambino sent word to DeCavalcante to read Joe Tiger the riot act because his guys weren’t working. DeCavalcante called Joe in and said these guys are ‘friends’ and they have to be kept on they can’t be laid off, it’s his responsibility to keep them working. These weren’t no show jobs these were made guys going to work each day at construction sites and this is in the 1960’s

This excellent LCNBios write up on Joe Sferra mentions the incident I brought up above.

https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2019/07/bi ... a.html?m=1

Sferra's inability or unwillingness to ensure that the made members in Local 394, particularly those in other LCN Families, stayed employed. DeCavalcante cited a Gambino member who had recently been laid off: "DeCavalcante complained to Joe that 'over here', even if [Gambino member] is not 'with us', he is still a 'friend of ours'. [Bug] said Joe was infuriated because [Gambino member] had been laid off only one day yet he complained to DeCavalcante about it. DeCavalcante told Joe he had promised Carlo Gambino that 'we'd' treat their men better than our own people, and DeCavalcante wanted it to be that way. DeCavalcante did not want men who are 'Amico nostra' going to the union hall."

[JeremyTheJew]

Guys....

Theres a huge difference in OWNING a business and working it....

And you working and punching a clock for someone else.

Didnt think i had to break that down....

[Joeyboy1982]

The whole point to being a criminal especially in organized crime is so you wont have to punch a clock.

It's not the whole point, evidenced by the fact that within Cosa Nostra specifically there have members who were business owners, priests, lawyers, politicians, plumbers, bakers, electricians, union officials, barbers, dentists, doctors and so on. That's not to say they don't have their fair share of stickup men, bookmakers, loan sharks, drug dealers, leg breakers and murderers.

Crime isn't the main point of the society but it takes all kinds of meat to make a good stew.

Trust me a guy making 10k a week selling coke isnt going to work a fulltime job.Like i said theres a difference between someone owning a construction company and some working on a jobsite.Do you think the chin or carlo gambino ever had a fulltme job.Even broksters like lefty ruggirio didnt work

Yea there are many guys who don’t work but like I said there are also plenty of guys who do and it’s always been that way.

I’m recalling Gambino sent word to DeCavalcante to read Joe Tiger the riot act because his guys weren’t working. DeCavalcante called Joe in and said these guys are ‘friends’ and they have to be kept on they can’t be laid off, it’s his responsibility to keep them working. These weren’t no show jobs these were made guys going to work each day at construction sites and this is in the 1960’s. People outside the life have a picture built up in their heads where it’s all just a bunch of guys who sit around scheming and plotting all day smoking cigars. Not realizing there are also guys who will lay bricks all day then collect loan shark payments and throw people beatings if need be for their captain at night.

Very well stated