Most Influential Non-Made Members from each Family

[coldshoulder]

Cleveland
Mashie rockman
Bill presser
Jackie presser
Babe Triscaro

Validated by Tony Milano's FBI file which was recently posted by Antiliar, especially with regards to Triscaro.

From that document, various informants, circa 1964 to 1968, claim Triscaro was "strategically placed" in his Teamster leadership position by Milano. Different sources state Milano "disliked" or even "hated" Triscaro but was willing to let him keep his union job as long as he continued to "take orders."

As the narrative continues, Triscaro gradually begins to ignore/disrespect an aging Tony Milano, which apparently led to the rise of John Nardi. But this passage says it very succinctly about "Non-Made" guys, and it likely was standard operating procedure for all families, not just Cleveland:

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[aleksandrored]

Could we consider Bugsy Siegel too?

[Sullycantwell]

Lepke Buchalter too maybe? is there direct proof he was on record with Anastasia? or is it just likely?

[gohnjotti]

Hugh McIntosh, Colombo family.

[johnny_scootch]

Frankie Flowers had a lot of juice during Bruno’s reign.

Michael Persico, Jojo Corozzo Esq.

[B.]

Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Joe Bravo was caught on tape saying that Vito "made" him and Desjardins despite them not being Italian.

Then we found out Desjardins texted about the newspaper article that said he was a candidate for new "godfather" by saying he couldn't hold the position because he wasn't Italian.

[Tonyd621]

Besides Gus Alex, Jake Guzik, Sam Hunt, Murray Humphreys, Ed Vogel, Les Kruse, Ralph Pierce or Fifke Corngold...

Hyman "Hy" aka "Red" Larner (Chicago)

Three things about this guy....made millions for the organization and for himself for decades....faked his own death....and made people simply "disappear" meaning no body no crime.

Heres one article regarding his whole life...

https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtop ... =30&t=1856

And heres a photo of the Jewish Outfit "member"...

I am not authorized to read it it stated

[Villain]

Besides Gus Alex, Jake Guzik, Sam Hunt, Murray Humphreys, Ed Vogel, Les Kruse, Ralph Pierce or Fifke Corngold...

Hyman "Hy" aka "Red" Larner (Chicago)

Three things about this guy....made millions for the organization and for himself for decades....faked his own death....and made people simply "disappear" meaning no body no crime.

Heres one article regarding his whole life...

https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtop ... =30&t=1856

And heres a photo of the Jewish Outfit "member"...

I am not authorized to read it it stated

The article section is free for all, so i really dont know why? Ask Soliai...back in the days i used to have similar problem with the fbi files section but Sol fixed it

[JeremyTheJew]

Surprised no one brought up Arnold Rothestein… one of the most influential non Italians possibly in whole mafia history- possibly with Meyer lansky as a good runner up

Also you got the whole murder inc Jews and Lepke was said to hold some power and rumored to be on the “non mafia commission” that also held meetings with Abbner long zellinger or whatever his name is i allways forget in NJ were powerful in the early days - very influential

And then you got Mickey Cohen in LA was almost more respected then the Mickey Mouse mafia according to some…

And then for CHICAGO you got a lotta guys that r very similar to the ones mentioned above… Murray Humphrey according to rohemer was almost just as big as anyone after accardo . Gus Alex . Jake greasey thumb guzik.

And don’t forgot the golden Jew Sam lefty rosenthall from Chicago to Vegas …

Those are the ones that Stick out for me…

[Villain]

I think Chicago holds or held the #1 spot for most influential non-made guys. Then we have Cleveland, the Genoveses etc.

[motorfab]

Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Joe Bravo was caught on tape saying that Vito "made" him and Desjardins despite them not being Italian.

Then we found out Desjardins texted about the newspaper article that said he was a candidate for new "godfather" by saying he couldn't hold the position because he wasn't Italian.

+1. Besides, it's only if you consider Montreal as an independant Family, because I'm not sure the Bonanno Crime Family even care about them. At least until Desjardins get Montagna killed ...

[CabriniGreen]

Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Joe Bravo was caught on tape saying that Vito "made" him and Desjardins despite them not being Italian.

Then we found out Desjardins texted about the newspaper article that said he was a candidate for new "godfather" by saying he couldn't hold the position because he wasn't Italian.

Greg Whooley might have been more important than Fernandez in Montreal. Dejardins, Miriarchi( maybe?), Scoppas, Musitanos, there's a few up there in Canada..... That Roger Valiquette? The French Quebecer?

[CabriniGreen]

Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Joe Bravo was caught on tape saying that Vito "made" him and Desjardins despite them not being Italian.

Then we found out Desjardins texted about the newspaper article that said he was a candidate for new "godfather" by saying he couldn't hold the position because he wasn't Italian.

+1. Besides, it's only if you consider Montreal as an independant Family, because I'm not sure the Bonanno Crime Family even care about them. At least until Desjardins get Montagna killed ...

They still didn't care, really.....

[Guest]

Maybe they didn't care but maybe they also knew they would get hit in New York City. I think that's the main thing...

[CornerBoy]

Frank Erickson
Morris Levy
Ruby Stein
-Genovese

Hy Larner only know what i read in double deal, great book- some of the shit seems pretty out there concerning hy larner. if that shit were true he would be up there with humphreys and gus alex or Frank alex whatever that big shot Greek dude in Chicago is name