Most Influential Non-Made Members from each Family

Post by **JCB1977** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:54 am

Hi BH Members,

I hope this message finds all of you well. I was hoping that together, we could all come up with a list from each family of non made members who were most influential. They could be Italian, half-Italian or non-Italian. I thought we could cover all 26 original mafia families across the U.S. Obviously, some of us have better knowledge of specific families that we could share with the board and I figured we could divide this up and assign certain members of the board to the specific families they have vast knowledge on. Everybody is welcome to chime in. Photos of Non members would be a bonus as well. Let me know who is interested in participating. Once we get a list of names and photos from each family, I thought we could put a chart together of non made influential members. Angelo is the chart expert if he's willing to participate...or anybody else who can design charts. I thought we could break it up by Midwest, East Coast, West Coast. Feedback is appreciated.

Post by **Stroccos** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:38 am

Cleveland
Mashie rockman
Bill presser
Jackie presser
Babe Triscaro

Post by **Eline2015** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:44 am

Maxie Stern (Detroit) , associate of Licavoli-Rubino crew. Active from 30s. Was an a enforcer, gambler and labor racketeer, connected to Hoffa. Died in 72.

Post by **FriendofHenry** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:48 am

Re: Most Influential Non-Made Members from each Family

Youngstown:
Bernie Althuler
Ernie Biondillo

Post by **Villain** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:55 am

Besides Gus Alex, Jake Guzik, Sam Hunt, Murray Humphreys, Ed Vogel, Les Kruse, Ralph Pierce or Fifke Corngold...

Hyman "Hy" aka "Red" Larner (Chicago)

Three things about this guy....made millions for the organization and for himself for decades....faked his own death....and made people simply "disappear" meaning no body no crime.

Heres one article regarding his whole life...

https://theblackhand.club/forum/viewtop ... =30&t=1856

And heres a photo of the Jewish Outfit "member"...

Post by **JCB1977** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:08 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:38 am Cleveland
Mashie rockman
Bill presser
Jackie presser
Babe Triscaro

I would also add the Jewish members of the Mayfield Road Gang...would you agree?

Post by **davidf1989** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:31 am

Meyer Lansky
Bumpy Johnson
Nicky Barnes

From Chicago
Murray Humphrey's
jake Guzik

Post by **mike68** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:38 am

Gerard 'The Frenchman' Ouimette out of Providence, very close with Patriarca

Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Post by **Dapper_Don** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:13 am

mike68 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:38 am Reynald Desjardins in Montreal for years until he switched alliances and tried to grab power for himself. Also, Joe Bravo in Montreal, until he met his demise after trying to remain neutral in the war up there.

Joe Bravo was caught on tape saying that Vito "made" him and Desjardins despite them not being Italian.

Post by **JCB1977** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:13 pm

Pittsburgh

Abe Zeid
Meyer Sigal
Willie Sams
Victor Carlucci- Son in law to Sam Mannarino
Frank Unis Jr- Aliquippa (Beaver County)
Geno Chiarelli- Pittsburgh
Anthony "Tony" Grosso- Allegheny County
Robert "Bobby I" Iannelli
Salvatore "Sal" Williams
Adolfo "Junior" Williams
Chuck Teemer
Joseph LaQuatra (LIUNA 1058)
Archie Nelson
Eugene "Nick the Blade" Gesuale
Primo Mollica
Anthony Murgie

Wheeling, WV Faction

William "Big Bill" Lias
Paul Hankish
Silvio "Birdie" Pinciaro

Youngstown Faction

Dominic Prato
Michael D. Romeo
Joseph "Blackie" Gennaro
Bernard "Bernie the Jew" Altshuler
James "Jinx" Naples
John "Popeye" Stevens
Mario "The Butcher" Guerreri
Paulie Holowatick
Amil Dinsio
Jimmy Dinsio
Dante Strollo

Johnstown/Altoona

Alfred "Freddy" Corbo
Michael Gulino
Fred Piera

Post by **FriendofHenry** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:13 pm

Maybe I should add Emil Denzio to my Youngstown list.
Besides being one of the top bank robbers in the country he wacked Joey Naples to gain favor with Lenny Strollo to be a made man - NOT!

Post by **NYNighthawk** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:16 pm

Jow Watts - Gambinos?

Post by **JoePuzzles234** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:23 pm

For the Los Angeles family, Harold "Happy" Meltzer was a fairly influential associate dating back to the late 1940s and his involvement/defection with the Cohen gang. He was well connected to Nick Licata and the Dragnas during the 1960s and was active in narcotics trafficking, bookmaking and loansharking.

Attached are the images used on his FBN file page and another that I had saved from one of Jiggy's ancient websites.

Harold Meltzer fbn.png

Harold Meltzer.png

Post by **chin_gigante** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 12:38 pm

During Arnold Squitieri’s time as acting boss of the Gambino family, associate Chris Sucarato was one of his three “eyes and ears on the street” along with members Alphonse Sisca and Louis Filippelli. In his book, Jack Garcia described Sucarato, Sisca, and Filippelli as being part of an unofficial "triumvirate".

Some examples from the Philadelphia family:

- Saul Kane made a lot of money for Nicky Scarfo in the 1980s and ran one of his shakedown crews.

- By the late 1980s, Nicky Scarfo Jr, still an associate, was very involved in running the family for his father.

- Ray Wagner seems to carry some degree of influence today through his position as one of Merlino’s messengers.

In all of the above instances though, the enlarged influence of each associate stemmed from their close relationship with the then-boss and does not seem to have carried on after their reign.

Post by **furiofromnaples** » Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:03 pm

Frank Palumbo for Philly.
Shondor Birns for Cleveland.