Vinny Goregous, Sally Daz, and Mikey Nose

[Honk]

What I haven’t seen discussed is whether or not Vinny Basicano was behind the attempted overthrow of Mancuso.

Vinny was tight with the captains who attempted it and I could see him instigating it after Mancuso stopped taking his calls.

Thoughts?

[NYNighthawk]

Vinny could not punch his way out of a paper bag these days. He doing salsa with the latin kings these days in the can after their aerobic classes are over. His power days ended back in 2005 - never to be gained again. Forget Vinny gorgeous.

[Joeyboy1982]

Short of giving Sally Daz round the clock protection which Cosa Nostra is not known to provide to associates what could Mikey Nose even do? Gang members were stalking the guy with tips from his own son. Maybe Mikey did put word out on the street but that word stays within their own circles and doesn’t make it to the corners the Bloods control.

Protection only works when violance coming from within the Families can be stopped. Not if it comes from the outside, especially with a "sneak job" like this.

I'm reminded of Frank Cocchiaro's son (later made) getting his ass kicked by a black Muslim at a construction site. The DeCavalcantes met with Carlo Gambino and he advised them not to retaliate as they didn't want to bring more heat / problems as the guy was affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood or Nation of Islam. They also felt Cocchiaro's son provoked it, if I remember right.

If that happened today there'd be a narrative about how far the mob has fallen, but there are certainly examples of them being selective or strategic about intervening in these types of issues.

Also have to wonder if some of the Bonanno leaders had an idea that this was a lowercase family dispute. The mob has been known to avoid those kinds of issues, i.e. Joe Colombo deciding not to intervene when Charlie LoCicero killed his grandson then was killed by his own son (the kid's father). Even though LoCicero and his son were made members Colombo felt it best not to get directly involved.

Great point.

[Rocco]

What I haven’t seen discussed is whether or not Vinny Basicano was behind the attempted overthrow of Mancuso.

Vinny was tight with the captains who attempted it and I could see him instigating it after Mancuso stopped taking his calls.

Thoughts?

1st I heard that Vinny was tight with Porky? Porky is not tight with anyone from the Bronx his whole life. Brooklyn, SI and Queens yes. Bronx..no.

[JeremyTheJew]

Mancuso is not just a lightning rod when he’s putting a whole faction on the shelf n ordered the wake drama

A uncle june/lightening rod situation would be similar to sopranos season 1 before the big busts when junior said spring cleaning time n they still looked over at Tony for approval/orders

[Jbravo]

Cops commenting on here...

[Philly d]

Short of giving Sally Daz round the clock protection which Cosa Nostra is not known to provide to associates what could Mikey Nose even do? Gang members were stalking the guy with tips from his own son. Maybe Mikey did put word out on the street but that word stays within their own circles and doesn’t make it to the corners the Bloods control.

right

[Philly d]

Short of giving Sally Daz round the clock protection which Cosa Nostra is not known to provide to associates what could Mikey Nose even do? Gang members were stalking the guy with tips from his own son. Maybe Mikey did put word out on the street but that word stays within their own circles and doesn’t make it to the corners the Bloods control.

right

[Mikeymike12]

Cheech, You really are a jackass .. I know this forum is the only fuking thing you do with your life, ur a little peon .

The guy was paying protection....regardless.

[Cheech]

Cheech, You really are a jackass .. I know this forum is the only fuking thing you do with your life, ur a little peon .

The guy was paying protection....regardless.

You right.

[CornerBoy]

Mikeymike- cheech made perfect sense why are u taking cheap shots at him. he very well versed in the history of lcn and knows shit from the street in NE.plus, he is a good guy

[JeremyTheJew]

The whole matter of fact is it es his own son orchestrating the hit
On his sons b day I might add sm

For all we know he was giving his son the money to pay for the protection