How is prison life for modern day Italian American mobsters? Are they still respected and feared?

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Interesting story about Gene Gotti in federal prison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KvgkMT ... ntPrisoner
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This guy did time with Gene Gotti at USP Pollock. He says that Gene was a good guy. He says that Gene was "down to earth". They ate together. He says that Gene was a hell of a cook out of a microwave. This guy says that when violence broke out Gene always vent to his cell. At 7: 00 he talks about Gene Gotti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1RJMHeHLU
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TallGuy19 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:32 am I didn't realize Fabrizio DeFrancisci was getting out so soon. I wonder if he'll be involved once he's released.
He was made I believe. So prob. Hes been in prison most of his adult life. His family is not wealthy and hes got no life skills. You do the math...lol
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There’s an big story in the New York Times today about how much of a shithole Rikers is. They’ve done several of these stories but this one’s got some pretty unreal video footage. They got video of these Fight Club type scenes where a gang leader in one unit picks out prisoners to fist fight just for his entertainment. The guards pretend not to see or just watch from a distance. This gang leader, I believe he was Dominican, in this one unit also chooses who can and can’t eat. I can’t imagine being a wiseguy and having to go up in that hell pit by yourself. I know Hootie Russo and Gene Borello are lying morons but their description of their time at Rikers pretty much matched up with this article perfectly. Literal hell on earth.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:45 pm There’s an big story in the New York Times today about how much of a shithole Rikers is. They’ve done several of these stories but this one’s got some pretty unreal video footage. They got video of these Fight Club type scenes where a gang leader in one unit picks out prisoners to fist fight just for his entertainment. The guards pretend not to see or just watch from a distance. This gang leader, I believe he was Dominican, in this one unit also chooses who can and can’t eat. I can’t imagine being a wiseguy and having to go up in that hell pit by yourself. I know Hootie Russo and Gene Borello are lying morons but their description of their time at Rikers pretty much matched up with this article perfectly. Literal hell on earth.
Just read it, the gang/gang leader your referencing is the Trinitarios. Very notorious/dangerous, few of them got busted recently robbing rich folk of their rolexes in Manhattan in broad daylight, stealing luxury cars like lambos, etc.
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Dapper_Don wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:35 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:45 pm There’s an big story in the New York Times today about how much of a shithole Rikers is. They’ve done several of these stories but this one’s got some pretty unreal video footage. They got video of these Fight Club type scenes where a gang leader in one unit picks out prisoners to fist fight just for his entertainment. The guards pretend not to see or just watch from a distance. This gang leader, I believe he was Dominican, in this one unit also chooses who can and can’t eat. I can’t imagine being a wiseguy and having to go up in that hell pit by yourself. I know Hootie Russo and Gene Borello are lying morons but their description of their time at Rikers pretty much matched up with this article perfectly. Literal hell on earth.
Just read it, the gang/gang leader your referencing is the Trinitarios. Very notorious/dangerous, few of them got busted recently robbing rich folk of their rolexes in Manhattan in broad daylight, stealing luxury cars like lambos, etc.
I'm all for a harsh penal experience but not at the hands of the prisoners themselves. The savages will be savages but you don't let them run the asylum. Absolutely pathetic.
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I wonder how much control the 157s have in NY state prison systems. 2 of their founders have been moaning for months about how all their efforts back in the 90s & 00s went to waste because of the new generations not being as united & tough and let the Bloods take over.
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Shellackhead wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:23 pm I wonder how much control the 157s have in NY state prison systems. 2 of their founders have been moaning for months about how all their efforts back in the 90s & 00s went to waste because of the new generations not being as united & tough and let the Bloods take over.
I remember reading some NYPD info on the gangs a while back. Both the Bloods and Trinitarios are considered "Tier 1 threats." The Bloods obviously fight among themselves but have more members than the Trinitarios, Crips, and Latin Kings combined.
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Wiseguy wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:08 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:23 pm I wonder how much control the 157s have in NY state prison systems. 2 of their founders have been moaning for months about how all their efforts back in the 90s & 00s went to waste because of the new generations not being as united & tough and let the Bloods take over.
I remember reading some NYPD info on the gangs a while back. Both the Bloods and Trinitarios are considered "Tier 1 threats." The Bloods obviously fight among themselves but have more members than the Trinitarios, Crips, and Latin Kings combined.
That’s also a factor.
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How about current guys in today’s state prison? Do they pull any weight at all ?
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HoagieNose wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:03 pm How about current guys in today’s state prison? Do they pull any weight at all ?
John Pennisi spent 17 years in New York state prison system. From 1990 until 2007. According to him made guys are always clicked up with other Italians. He says that usually the LCN guys are left to be in New York prisons. He says LCN made guys more often than not are held in a sort of awe by other prisoners. Pennisi also says that there is no rank in New York prisons, so associates , capos and soldiers are all on the same level.
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Wiseguy wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:21 pm
Dapper_Don wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:35 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:45 pm There’s an big story in the New York Times today about how much of a shithole Rikers is. They’ve done several of these stories but this one’s got some pretty unreal video footage. They got video of these Fight Club type scenes where a gang leader in one unit picks out prisoners to fist fight just for his entertainment. The guards pretend not to see or just watch from a distance. This gang leader, I believe he was Dominican, in this one unit also chooses who can and can’t eat. I can’t imagine being a wiseguy and having to go up in that hell pit by yourself. I know Hootie Russo and Gene Borello are lying morons but their description of their time at Rikers pretty much matched up with this article perfectly. Literal hell on earth.
Just read it, the gang/gang leader your referencing is the Trinitarios. Very notorious/dangerous, few of them got busted recently robbing rich folk of their rolexes in Manhattan in broad daylight, stealing luxury cars like lambos, etc.
I'm all for a harsh penal experience but not at the hands of the prisoners themselves. The savages will be savages but you don't let them run the asylum. Absolutely pathetic.
Agree 100%
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This guy Robert Rosso did time with Carmine Persico, Little Jimmy Ida, Matty the Horse, Batiste “Benny” Geritano, John Stanfa, Tommy Pitera, Tommy Reynolds etc in various federal prisons. He has interesting stories about mobsters in prison. He says that Tommy Pitera was the nicest guy in the world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft_X2A- ... imePodcast
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This guy Robert Rosso says that Joey Testa was running things at FCC Butner. This guy had issues with Testa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQNZ-Gs ... ConvictInc.
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Keep posting these prison stories. Many thanks
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