How is prison life for modern day Italian American mobsters? Are they still respected and feared?

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I found this https://www.reddit.com/r/PrisonTalk/com ... y_italian/ on reddit. Is this at least partially true? Your thpughts

"A friend of mine a non-LCN Italian American spent 11 years in federal prison from 2006 until 2017. One year in MDC Brooklyn, 3 years in Big Sandy, 3 years in Hazelton, 4 years in Fort Dix nj. My friend says that in some federal prisons Italian American mobsters are still respected and feared and other inmates prefer to be friend of mobsters. He says that Big Sandy did not have a large LCN population, so the mob guys he met were pretty low key, didn't look for trouble and were pretty much left alone but at Hazelton there was a larger LCN population with several lifers, and they were much more involved in prison politics. He says that in Hazelton mobsters protected him because he is Italian. He says that in Hazelton mobsters are the ones that offer protection to other people not the other way around. He says Fort Dix had all kinds of Italian American mobsters, wise guys, wanna-be's, and east coast type dudes. There are the New York guys, the New Jersey ones, and the Philly ones and they are running Fort Dix. My friend says there is no way someone’s going to rape a guy who they know is Made who they will get killed for? Sure it’s possible but status holds a lot of weight in prison. My friend says No Blood, Crip, Hispanic,Aryan gang member would even touch someone in La Cosa Nostra.

He says that it's always the weakest guys that get the worst treatment in prison and that If you're a well respected criminal on the outside, then chances are you'll be respected in prison. Mobsters are street guys, so other inmates aren't going to mess around with them . And definitely not if the mobster is a member of a powerful family. My friend says that the targets in prison are the most vulnerable people, the mobsters especially the New York ones still have much power outside prison. Also my friend says that Big Sandy did not have a large LCN population, so the mob guys he met were pretty low key but no one really messed with them and and that most inmates looked up to them like a kid looks up to a ball player and thinks "that's what I want to be" and that they were considered original gangsters by black inmates.

Also he says that blacks are extorting and bullying weak vulnerable unprotected white guys. My friend says that from what he saw in the places he was locked up in black prisoners are all about that rape shit or the consensual sex shit in between the black population and that most prison rapes in the places he was locked up in were committed by black men on white men. He says that in Hazelton all the DC Blacks gang members have their sissies/prison wives that they kick it with. I am not saying that it's like that all over United States I'm strictly speaking from what my friend saw in the places he was locked up in. Things could be different in other prisons. .

But there's not one example of LCN mob guys being raped in prison; especially when you consider how many have done time. My friend says that most regular inmates typically show respect to Italian American mobster (in his words) if not straight-up swing off the guy's balls. No one messed with the LCN guys as far as he saw. But my friend says that most white inmates tend to have an aloof attitude towards other white inmates. He says that Spanish, Asian, Native American and black inmates will help each other no matter what. Also my friend says that in Big Sandy he was ashamed to be white that there most of the white inmates were just (in his words) universally cunts. He says that Aryan Brotherhood weren't a big presence in Big Sandy, but they were bad enough to (again in his words) make you kind of wish your mother had been raped by black man."
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Thanks to chin_gigante

Here’s what I have for confirmed members who are currently listed by BOP as being in federal custody

FCI Fort Dix, NJ

Bonanno: Anthony Aiello, 44 (10/09/2030)
Bonanno: Daniel Mongelli, 54 (06/22/2023)
Bonanno: Michael Padavona, 52 (01/20/2024)
Gambino: John Ambrosio, 77 (06/02/2022)
Genovese: Vincent Esposito, 53 (02/14/2021)
Genovese: Ernest Montevecchi, 75 (08/25/2021)
Genovese: Pasquale Parrello, 76 (07/22/2022)
Luchese: John Castelucci, 61 (05/15/2022)
Luchese: Tindaro Corso, 60 (10/31/2021)
Luchese: James Maffucci, 72 (10/02/2021)

MDC Brooklyn, NY

Bonanno: Stephen LoCurto, 59 (LIFE)
Colombo: Joseph Amato, 61
Colombo: Vito DiFalco, 66 (02/24/2021)
Colombo: Thomas Scorcia, 53
Luchese: Steven Crea, 71

USP Allenwood, PA

Colombo: Joseph Monteleone, 81 (LIFE)
Colombo: Anthony Russo, 67 (LIFE)
Genovese: Alan Grecco, 77 (07/07/2045)
Luchese: Louis Daidone, 74 (LIFE)
Luchese: Anthony Senter, 65 (LIFE)

FCI Schuylkill, PA

Bonanno: Frank Salerno, 46 (12/16/2021)
Gambino: Ronald Trucchio, 69 (LIFE)
Genovese: James Ida, 80 (LIFE)
Philadelphia: Salvatore Piccolo, 69 (11/01/2028)
Philadelphia: John Stanfa, 79 (LIFE)

FCI Allenwood Medium, PA

Gambino: Thomas Carbonaro, 72 (03/15/2063)
Luchese: Joseph Massaro, 77 (LIFE)
Luchese: John Petrucelli, 48 (LIFE)
Philadelphia: Frank Martines, 66 (LIFE)

FMC Devens, MA

Colombo: Victor Orena, 86 (LIFE)
Gambino: Frank LoCascio, 88 (LIFE)
Genovese: Emilio Fusco, 52 (12/13/2031)
Luchese: Joseph Datello, 69 (05/05/2029)

FCI Allenwood Low, PA

Bonanno: Fabrizio DiFrancisci, 50 (04/02/2020)
Bonanno: Gino Galestro, 52 (06/24/2023)
Colombo: Vincent DeMartino, 65 (07/14/2024)

FCI Cumberland, MD

Colombo: John DeRoss, 83 (LIFE)
Luchese: Vittorio Amuso, 86 (LIFE)
Luchese: Anthony Grado, 56 (12/19/2027)

FCI Danbury, CT

Bonanno: Anthony Donato, 62 (03/08/2026)
Bonanno: Anthony Indelicato, 73 (05/22/2023)
Colombo: Thomas Gioeli, 68 (05/02/2024)

FCI Butner Low, NC

Bonanno: Robert Lino, 54 (07/14/2027)
Philadelphia: Joseph Massimino, 70 (09/27/2024)

FCI Fairton, NJ

Bonanno: George Tropiano, 71 (03/29/2022)
Luchese: Nicodemo Scarfo, 55 (05/14/2037)

FCI Jesup, GA

Bonanno: Joseph Sabella, 55 (10/23/2025)
DeCavalcante: Charles Stango, 77 (03/19/2024)

FDC Philadelphia, PA

Luchese/ Philadelphia (unclear): Salvatore Pelullo, 53 (07/04/2037)
Philadelphia: Joseph Servidio, 61

FMC Rochester, MN

Genovese: Louis Manna, 90 (11/07/2054)
Philadelphia: Giuseppe Gallara, 53 (LIFE)

FCI Terminal Island, CA

Gambino: Neil Lombardo, 64 (08/10/2023)
Luchese: Joseph Testa, 65 (LIFE)

Others

Bonanno: Ronald Giallanzo, 50 (FCI Butner Medium I, NC) 03/02/2029
Bonanno: Baldassare Amato, 68 (FCI Gilmer, WV) LIFE
Bonanno: Vincent Basciano, 60 (USP Big Sandy, KY) LIFE
Bonanno: Michael Palmaccio, 49 (FCI Terre Haute, IN) 03/15/2023
Bonanno: Thomas Pitera, 65 (USP McCreary, KY) LIFE
Colombo: Alphonse Persico, 66 (FCI McKean, PA) LIFE
Colombo: Ralph DeLeo, 77 (FMC Lexington, KY) 05/28/2025
Colombo: Dino Saracino, 48 (USP Hazelton, WV) 03/26/2051
Colombo: Michael Sessa, 62 (USP Lewisburg, PA) LIFE
Gambino: Peter Gotti, 80 (FMC Butner, NC) 09/10/2031
Gambino: Charles Carneglia, 74 (USP Canaan, PA) LIFE
Gambino: Michael Yannotti, 57 (FCI Ashland, KY) 09/29/2021
Genovese: Frank Giovinco, 53 (FCI Loretto, PA) 02/11/2024
Luchese: Steven Crea Jr, 48 (FCI La Tuna, TX) 07/07/2029
Luchese: Joseph DiNapoli, 85 (MCC New York, NY) 10/30/2023
Luchese: Michael Spinelli, 66 (FMC Fort Worth, TX) 10/25/2026
Chicago: James Marcello, 76 (USP Florence ADMAX, CO) LIFE
Chicago: Michael Sarno, 62 (FCI Petersburg Medium, VA) 05/07/2032

NOT IN BOP CUSTODY

Bonanno: Dominick Deluccia, 46
Genovese: Salvatore Demeo, 80
Luchese: Christopher Londonio, 46 (LIFE)
Luchese: Matthew Madonna, 85 (LIFE)

Half-way houses:

Bonanno: Nicholas Festa, 42 (New York RRM) 05/08/2022
Colombo: Gregory Scarpa Jr, 69 (Kansas City RRM) 07/03/2026
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No it’s not like the goodfellas shit from 30 years ago. Usually mafia guys are fine because they carry themselves the right way. But they aren’t “running shit” in there.
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HoagieNose wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:46 am No it’s not like the goodfellas shit from 30 years ago. Usually mafia guys are fine because they carry themselves the right way. But they aren’t “running shit” in there.
It is not like Goodfellas, but LCN Made guys usually have their muscle guys and other Italian inmates in all the cells surrounding them. This guy Seth Ferranti says LCN guys have their spots where they hang out and play cards. He says that in Fort Dix all the prisoners would be standing in line and the mobsters would just walk in and go to a predetermined table with a table cloth on it. Then when they were settled a prisoner cook who worked in the kitchen would bring them out plates of food specially prepared and made to order for them- omelets, fried rice, or whatever. He says it was a paid for service but it still gave them an appearance of living large and being special https://www.sethferranti.com/gorillablo ... fia-guys-2
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I didn't realize Fabrizio DeFrancisci was getting out so soon. I wonder if he'll be involved once he's released.
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TallGuy19 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:32 am I didn't realize Fabrizio DeFrancisci was getting out so soon. I wonder if he'll be involved once he's released.
If that date were correct he’d be out already but his sentence is for another 10 years.

Expected release 4/2/30
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Is life in prison, life? Till you die. I heard its 25 yrs. I heard you can get paroled. If someone is sentenced to "life" and you look on their bop file and says "life?" Is that till death?
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Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:12 am Is life in prison, life? Till you die. I heard its 25 yrs. I heard you can get paroled. If someone is sentenced to "life" and you look on their bop file and says "life?" Is that till death?
If you're sentenced to life without parole it means that you will never be eligible for parole. If you are given 25 to life it means that you are eligible for parole after 25 years, but if you're not able to convince the parole board to release you, you will spend the rest of your life in prison.
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johnny_scootch wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:02 am
TallGuy19 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:32 am I didn't realize Fabrizio DeFrancisci was getting out so soon. I wonder if he'll be involved once he's released.
If that date were correct he’d be out already but his sentence is for another 10 years.

Expected release 4/2/30
Whoops. I guess I went full retard there for a minute. :lol:
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TallGuy19 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:51 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:12 am Is life in prison, life? Till you die. I heard its 25 yrs. I heard you can get paroled. If someone is sentenced to "life" and you look on their bop file and says "life?" Is that till death?
If you're sentenced to life without parole it means that you will never be eligible for parole. If you are given 25 to life it means that you are eligible for parole after 25 years, but if you're not able to convince the parole board to release you, you will spend the rest of your life in prison.
For example Baldo Amatos BOP says LIFE...so what does that mean?
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This guy John Kiriakou has an interesting anecdote about Italian gangsters influence in Loretto federal prison. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-kVpPDWntE
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Shaun Attwood has an interesting anecdote about a supposedly connected guy that was in his pod during his sentence. This would have been back in the early - mid 00's. He served time in AZ, IIRC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lc2KIW7-_4
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Rene “Boxer” Enriquez was a high ranking Mexican Mafia member that became an informant. The Mexican Mafia runs almost every prison in California and Arizona, and he said they only had minimal interaction with mob guys, but he said they had great respect for Cosa Nostra because of the structure, and admitted they even emulated them in some regards. But he also acknowledged that Cosa Nostra just doesn’t have the numbers to exert any kinda influence in the prisons out west.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:32 pm
TallGuy19 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:51 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:12 am Is life in prison, life? Till you die. I heard its 25 yrs. I heard you can get paroled. If someone is sentenced to "life" and you look on their bop file and says "life?" Is that till death?
If you're sentenced to life without parole it means that you will never be eligible for parole. If you are given 25 to life it means that you are eligible for parole after 25 years, but if you're not able to convince the parole board to release you, you will spend the rest of your life in prison.
For example Baldo Amatos BOP says LIFE...so what does that mean?

It means his ass is never getting out. While some states may give you a life sentence that gives you eligibility for parole after a certain amount of time e.g. 25 to life, there is no parole in the US federal system. Life means life.
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I dont care how gay you are - who the fuck would wan to rape a 77 year old white guy?
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