Sonny Ciancutti died (Pittsburgh)

[Wiseguy]

FriendofHenry why after 2006 Ciancutti and the other old wiseguys never tried to rebuilt the mob family?

Like what couple of "old wiseguys" left that would need or even want to rebuild?

There was no associates or sons of wiseguys to made?

Get ready for this: Michael's last guy made was Henry when he sent him to Youngstown to keep an eye on Lenny after he had Ernie hit.
There was also some question after Joey got shot. Turns out Michael was not involved with that one.
Keep in mind that one of Pittsburgh's biggest money makers, The All American Club was still up and productive.
Like what associates or sons of old wiseguys would he have made or even want to be made?
The last thing Michael wanted was any more Fed attention or adverse publicity.

Ok I read that rusty Iannelli get 10 years for gambling,so can say that there are still an italian underground but prefer to don't be made for avoid the Rico?

BINGO

I don't know if I'd even go as far as to call it an Italian underground. More like independent operators, some of whom happen to be Italian. And some of those may have familial or past business ties to deceased mafiosi. And whether someone would want to be made or not, there's nobody to make them or organization to be made into.

[FriendofHenry]

FriendofHenry why after 2006 Ciancutti and the other old wiseguys never tried to rebuilt the mob family?

Like what couple of "old wiseguys" left that would need or even want to rebuild?

There was no associates or sons of wiseguys to made?

Get ready for this: Michael's last guy made was Henry when he sent him to Youngstown to keep an eye on Lenny after he had Ernie hit.
There was also some question after Joey got shot. Turns out Michael was not involved with that one.
Keep in mind that one of Pittsburgh's biggest money makers, The All American Club was still up and productive.
Like what associates or sons of old wiseguys would he have made or even want to be made?
The last thing Michael wanted was any more Fed attention or adverse publicity.

Ok I read that rusty Iannelli get 10 years for gambling,so can say that there are still an italian underground but prefer to don't be made for avoid the Rico?

BINGO

I don't know if I'd even go as far as to call it an Italian underground. More like independent operators, some of whom happen to be Italian. And some of those may have familial or past business ties to deceased mafiosi. And whether someone would want to be made or not, there's nobody to make them or organization to be made into.

Independent Operators is a better way to describe what's left.

[Ruggiero]

To sonny's credit, this is only the second picture I've ever seen of him, besides the one where he is in a mugshot in the 60s or 70s. Does anyone know if there are other pictures of him out there from his 2000 bust or earlier?

I have a photo from the 60s or 50s (not sure which) I can share with you.



Not much but I hope it helps.

Thanks, Rugg..

[Adam]

FriendofHenry why after 2006 Ciancutti and the other old wiseguys never tried to rebuilt the mob family?

Like what couple of "old wiseguys" left that would need or even want to rebuild?

There was no associates or sons of wiseguys to made?

Get ready for this: Michael's last guy made was Henry when he sent him to Youngstown to keep an eye on Lenny after he had Ernie hit.
There was also some question after Joey got shot. Turns out Michael was not involved with that one.
Keep in mind that one of Pittsburgh's biggest money makers, The All American Club was still up and productive.
Like what associates or sons of old wiseguys would he have made or even want to be made?
The last thing Michael wanted was any more Fed attention or adverse publicity.

Thanks for the info. Just want to be clear here. Zottolo was made? I think most of us had been under the impression the last members inducted were Strollo, Naples, Ciancutti and Raucci. In 1987? So there was a ceremony after that?

[FriendofHenry]

Henry had fought the "thing" for decades as he thought all it did was bring more Federal heat and put the Rico card in play. However when Michael began to have serious concerns as to what Lenny would or wouldn't do and Charlie was more or less retired, he sent Henry to town on almost a daily basis to keep an eye on Lenny. Michael knew that Lenny would only fully listen to and respect another made man. I have no idea if any kind of ceremony was involved and in fact I first heard of Henry being made from Bernie the Jew. When I talked to Henry about it he told me that it was time and he had a chance to make some real money that he sorely needed for a bone marrow transplant. He had cancer and in fact died from cancer. He died a made man.

[Adam]

Sorry, just to be clear, "Charlie" is Charlie Porter?

[Stroccos]

here is a chart from 1989 from the PA Crime commission

includes Zebo but no strollo or joey Naples.

[Ruggiero]

here is a chart from 1989 from the PA Crime commission

includes Zebo but no strollo or joey Naples.

I was confused when I stumbled upon the chart.
I can see why Strollo wasn't included, as I'm pretty sure he was made in '89 (maybe they didn't have knowledge of him being made at that point)
but no sign of Imburgia either which is strange to me, as he was a pretty influential member being adviser.

[FriendofHenry]

Sorry, just to be clear, "Charlie" is Charlie Porter?

Charlie as in Charlie Murgie, Micheal's Consigliere. Michael was careful to use both Charlie and Henry to communicate with Lenny.
For years, because Charlie was in fact superior to Lenny, Charlie kept an eye on Lenny for Michael.
When the shit really hit the fan starting with Lenny having Ernie whacked, Charlie was pretty much retired in Florida. Thus Henry being upped.

[FriendofFamily]

The last of the Mohicans.

Pittsburgh joins Scranton, Milwaukee, Dallas, Denver, San Francisco and San Jose as cities with no living members.

Yup, all them Pittsburgh Mohicans are now dead Braves and Chiefs

Looks like Cleveland just now won their long rivalry by default. I wonder what Papalardo is up to besides enjoying his money LOL.

What's left of Cleveland? Isn't it just a handful of guys?

Yes there are a few guys still doing Book 100% sure of that.

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[FriendofFamily]

You had Pat Ferruccio as Consigliere for Pittsburgh for a very short time until his indictment back I think around 1993. Our Attorney friend Howard Allison represented him in a couple of matters. Pat was with Cleveland until the falling out happened with Cleveland and then eventually moved on to Pittsburgh after Cleveland imploded.

[FriendofFamily]

You had Pat Ferruccio as Consigliere for Pittsburgh for a very short time until his indictment back I think around 1993. Our Attorney friend Howard Allison represented him in a couple of matters. Pat was with Cleveland until the falling out happened with Cleveland and then eventually moved on to Pittsburgh after Cleveland imploded. His son knows better than to be LCN. He can make good money doing what he is doing.

[Pogo The Clown]

The feds had the family at 13 members in 1990. By the late 1990s Porter and Strollo had flipped and the remaining members below would die off afterwards.

1. Frank Amato Jr. (2003)
2. John Bazzano Jr. (2008)
3. Anthony Capizzi (2007)
4. Eugene Chiarelli (2001)
5. Thomas Ciancutti (2021)
6. Pasquale Ferruccio (2004)
7. Michael Genovese (2006)
8. Charles Imburgia (2002)
9. Antonio Ripepi (2000)

Too add to this here are the members who died from 1980-1999.


Samuel Fashionatta
Sebastian “John” LaRocca (1984)
Gabriel “Kelly” Mannarino (1980)
Joseph Napoli (1991) (Killed)
Joseph “JoJo” Pecora (1987)
Vincenzo “Jimmy” Prato (1988)
Louis Raucci (1995)
Joe Regino
Joseph Sica (1991)
Michael Trafficante
Louis Volpe
Henry “Zebo” Zottola (1998)


I'm sure I'm missing some. Does anyone have the death year for the members up top? Thanks.


Pogo

[Mustangsally]

The feds had the family at 13 members in 1990. By the late 1990s Porter and Strollo had flipped and the remaining members below would die off afterwards.

1. Frank Amato Jr. (2003)
2. John Bazzano Jr. (2008)
3. Anthony Capizzi (2007)
4. Eugene Chiarelli (2001)
5. Thomas Ciancutti (2021)
6. Pasquale Ferruccio (2004)
7. Michael Genovese (2006)
8. Charles Imburgia (2002)
9. Antonio Ripepi (2000)

Too add to this here are the members who died from 1980-1999.


Samuel Fashionatta
Sebastian “John” LaRocca (1984)
Gabriel “Kelly” Mannarino (1980)
Joseph Napoli (1991) (Killed)
Joseph “JoJo” Pecora (1987)
Vincenzo “Jimmy” Prato (1988)
Louis Raucci (1995)
Joe Regino
Joseph Sica (1991)
Michael Trafficante
Louis Volpe
Henry “Zebo” Zottola (1998)


I'm sure I'm missing some. Does anyone have the death year for the members up top? Thanks.


Pogo

Joe regino died in 85

[Ivan]

The last of the Mohicans.

Pittsburgh joins Scranton, Milwaukee, Dallas, Denver, San Francisco and San Jose as cities with no living members.

Yup, all them Pittsburgh Mohicans are now dead Braves and Chiefs

Looks like Cleveland just now won their long rivalry by default. I wonder what Papalardo is up to besides enjoying his money LOL.

What's left of Cleveland? Isn't it just a handful of guys?

Yes there are a few guys still doing Book 100% sure of that.

Guys that "Cleveland won by default" comment was a joke.