The time-frame is 2015-2018, not 2015-2016, but I'll agree with you, things could have still changed a fair bit since then. Merlino's legal problems, Ligambi's retirement, Lancellotti's health problems...NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:39 am JL in the indictment is 100% Uncle Joe Ligambi.
Scoops was never consigliere and would never be consigliere.
Scoops doesn’t even really run the day to day of his own crew in North Jersey.
Remember the timeframe of this indictment was 2015-2016 so at that time you had Mikey Lance Street Boss, Uncle Joe Consigliere, and Stevie as Underboss with Merlino being the Official Boss from Florida. So this was the structure 4-5 years ago, things have changed since then Merlino even got indicted and went away so you have new people in the admin positions in 2020 running the day to day out on the streets.
Things change rather quickly and rapidly out on the streets you need to remember with people being indicted, people coming out of prison, people on paper, people falling out of favor/popularity, people earning more, etc. The structure in 2015 isn’t going to be the same in 2020. This indictment is all from at least 5 years ago.
Fifteen Philadelphia Family Members and Associates Indicted
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'You don't go crucifying people outside a church; not on Good Friday.'
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I'd be confident in saying from at least 2016 to the present George has taken a step forward but who knows.
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I think lou does. licata is up there I age now ? 80?TommyGambino wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:49 amDoes fazzini run the Jersey crew day to day?NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:39 am JL in the indictment is 100% Uncle Joe Ligambi.
Scoops was never consigliere and would never be consigliere.
Scoops doesn’t even really run the day to day of his own crew in North Jersey.
Remember the timeframe of this indictment was 2015-2016 so at that time you had Mikey Lance Street Boss, Uncle Joe Consigliere, and Stevie as Underboss with Merlino being the Official Boss from Florida. So this was the structure 4-5 years ago, things have changed since then Merlino even got indicted and went away so you have new people in the admin positions in 2020 running the day to day out on the streets.
Things change rather quickly and rapidly out on the streets you need to remember with people being indicted, people coming out of prison, people on paper, people falling out of favor/popularity, people earning more, etc. The structure in 2015 isn’t going to be the same in 2020. This indictment is all from at least 5 years ago.
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So now Dame is going to step up right?
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dying after reading thatBoston+matt14 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:47 pmAre we sure JL isn't Jeff Lowman?Chucky wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:37 am From Pacer:
Going over the indictment nowSince the beginning of the family system, a single LCN family has operated continuously in the greater Philadelphia region. The Philadelphia LCN is based in South Philadelphia and has historically had a substantial presence in southem New Jersey, particularly Atlantic City. The Philadelphia LCN follows the hierarchical structure outlined above. During the period covered in the Superseding Indictment, the Philadelphia LCN was led by Street Boss M.L., Underboss defendant STEVEN MAZZONE, and Consigliere J.L.
Obviously ML & JL are Lancellotti & Ligambi
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Thanks Chuck
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Dom’s wife is pregnant and due in a few months. They are definitely playing games with him right now.
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right on with that; esp since the history of his dad; There is so much crime in areas of Philly, I mean a 50 year old store owner was shot in the head the other night while closing up shop in front of his daughter....the fake pill thing is nota good look cause its just a death wish with that fetnanyly crap and kennsington is zombieland with that stuff and others but it seems the FBI & Philly cops are looking at some bs crimes aside from the pills that are legal in both jersey and PA
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agreed, its prolly why Capeci has Borgesi as UB and it gets contradicted in the indictment cause its from 4-5 years ago.NJShore4Life wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:39 am JL in the indictment is 100% Uncle Joe Ligambi.
Scoops was never consigliere and would never be consigliere.
Scoops doesn’t even really run the day to day of his own crew in North Jersey.
Remember the timeframe of this indictment was 2015-2016 so at that time you had Mikey Lance Street Boss, Uncle Joe Consigliere, and Stevie as Underboss with Merlino being the Official Boss from Florida. So this was the structure 4-5 years ago, things have changed since then Merlino even got indicted and went away so you have new people in the admin positions in 2020 running the day to day out on the streets.
Things change rather quickly and rapidly out on the streets you need to remember with people being indicted, people coming out of prison, people on paper, people falling out of favor/popularity, people earning more, etc. The structure in 2015 isn’t going to be the same in 2020. This indictment is all from at least 5 years ago.
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how long does staino have left?
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The DOJ press release uses the present tense in describing Mazzone as the UnderBoss.
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I’m surprised Mikey Emma wasn’t involved in this.
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Any theories on who person 5 is? Maybe owing grande money was why he flipped ? Charges state he was recipient of usurious loans from dom grande
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Person 5 has to be Persiano.
This bust seems fairly crew specific and deals with those who dealt directly with Persiano. It will likely be limited in how much it tells us about what's going on downtown unless they have another rat. That had to be part of the reason for dangling out the DiPietro hit, to see if they can get someone in the fold.
This bust seems fairly crew specific and deals with those who dealt directly with Persiano. It will likely be limited in how much it tells us about what's going on downtown unless they have another rat. That had to be part of the reason for dangling out the DiPietro hit, to see if they can get someone in the fold.
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It seems strange that Dom Grande became captain of a crew not in his so called ”area” or around home and over a bunch od guys that are mostly old.
It seems that most of the younger guys are under different captains.
It seems that most of the younger guys are under different captains.