Chris Christie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:35 am
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:05 amit would make MORE sense if they were part of ndrangheta....
Why do you say that?
Zooming out to the macro, it seems what the active Buffalo LCN or the active members of the inactive Buffalo LCN are engaged in and around the drug trade. Buffalo, economically isn't the city that it once was that would today warrant a local family, however they next to Detroit are one of the few border-city Families in the USA. Seems like these active Buffalo LCN'ers of the inactive Buffalo Family are well placed between the GTA and NYC underworld to play a significant role.
I agree with all of that, I've said it all before...
That it takes economically vibrant cities, the type of cities that have large unions with well paying jobs, for the type of large scale white collar crime we associate with the mafia. In economically depressed areas, you actually should EXPECT to see more drug trafficking, the people are more desperate. Looking for a daily escape.... It's the same with gambling.... I wouldnt look at the west side of Chicago looking for mutimillions in sportsbooks, look for the gambling machines in the back of the local store, slots.... what the poor are playing everyday...
The only thing I could ever see a criminal organization form anew around Buffalo would be its status as a border city. Meaning moving contraband, be it drugs, cigarettes..
When I looked at this initially, it was like, are they Bonnano members?
But when I thought about it, it was like, well when did they get made? Under Rastelli? I doubt it. Under Massino then? The most likely possibility, but that meant either they 1. Went to NY and got made, by... someone...
2. Someone FROM NY, went up there and made
them, like Zummo did with Morena....
3. Someone IN Canada made them.
I figured, if they went to NY and got made, we woulda heard about it from one of the rats, plus Vitale would have been aware of them. He would have mentioned them when questioned about Canada.
Same for a NY guy going up there to make em. It didnt happen (pre) the Vitale trips to Montreal, right? So it would have been after, so why didnt Massino say so?
I dont think the Rizzutos would have either made em themselves or authorized it if say, the Cotronis sponsored them....
The consensus on the boards was there wasnt any Buffalo.
Not only that, but guys seem hostile to the idea of a mobsters primary focus being drugs....
With the direct line to Colombia, all the drug trafficking, the family ties, and ties to the the Commisos with tobacco, it seemed logical at the time..
But of course now we know better
Basically Chris, I was just saying if they were ndrangheta and not Buffalo LCN, we wouldnt be having this intractable debate.....