bonanno split

[slimshady_007]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

[gohnjotti]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

I think you’re right Slim, but not specifically because Massimo promoted him. I think it’s also because Basciano was a lot younger than the other guys and rose the ranks incredibly quickly. Then, he was shipped over to a Supermax, where his opinion or say didn’t mean shit, and had no real backing on the street after Michael Mancuso took over and Dom Cicale flipped. That’s my take.

[IrishDave]

I don’t know what it is about the bananas but I just love reading and studying them. So they are more Sicilian than the genovese ?

The Bonanno Family was originally mostly from Castellammare del Golfo. If I remember correctly Joe Valachi said that he was made into that faction during the Castellammare War. I think he said that they were taking just about everybody. Now a days I don't think that the Bonanno' s are any more Sicilian then the other family's.

[IrishDave]

Didn't Basciano promote Michael Mancuso to acting boss?

[gohnjotti]

Didn't Basciano promote Michael Mancuso to acting boss?

Basciano wanted a ruling panel with Mancuso on it, but Mancuso took the family for himself.

[IrishDave]

Thanks gohnjotti.

[Lupara]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

I think you’re right Slim, but not specifically because Massimo promoted him. I think it’s also because Basciano was a lot younger than the other guys and rose the ranks incredibly quickly. Then, he was shipped over to a Supermax, where his opinion or say didn’t mean shit, and had no real backing on the street after Michael Mancuso took over and Dom Cicale flipped. That’s my take.

Did the same apply to Montagna who was even younger than Basciano when he ascended to the throne?

[gohnjotti]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

I think you’re right Slim, but not specifically because Massimo promoted him. I think it’s also because Basciano was a lot younger than the other guys and rose the ranks incredibly quickly. Then, he was shipped over to a Supermax, where his opinion or say didn’t mean shit, and had no real backing on the street after Michael Mancuso took over and Dom Cicale flipped. That’s my take.

Did the same apply to Montagna who was even younger than Basciano when he ascended to the throne?

Good point.

[slimshady_007]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

I think you’re right Slim, but not specifically because Massimo promoted him. I think it’s also because Basciano was a lot younger than the other guys and rose the ranks incredibly quickly. Then, he was shipped over to a Supermax, where his opinion or say didn’t mean shit, and had no real backing on the street after Michael Mancuso took over and Dom Cicale flipped. That’s my take.

Did the same apply to Montagna who was even younger than Basciano when he ascended to the throne?

I doubt mancuso just stepped down as #1 after he was arrested in 2006 and i dont think Montagna ran the family on the streets on Mancuso’s behalf. The Bonnano’s likely didn’t have an official boss from 2005-2009.

[Lupara]

The entire Bonanno conflict can be traced back to Joe Massino flipping. After he flipped there was no clear successor since nobody wanted to take orders from basciano, who massino had installed as acting boss.

Conflict started when the top captains and ruling panel got off the streets and bunch of guys turning .
nobody wanted to take orders from basciano ??
Basciano had clout

I remember reading that nobody wanted to take orders from bascinano since the rat massino promoted him to acting boss.

I think you’re right Slim, but not specifically because Massimo promoted him. I think it’s also because Basciano was a lot younger than the other guys and rose the ranks incredibly quickly. Then, he was shipped over to a Supermax, where his opinion or say didn’t mean shit, and had no real backing on the street after Michael Mancuso took over and Dom Cicale flipped. That’s my take.

Did the same apply to Montagna who was even younger than Basciano when he ascended to the throne?

Good point.

It was a sincere question. [emoji4]

[gohnjotti]

Oh. My bad. Honestly, I never really knew much about Montagna but I know the media hyped him up as the next John Gotti.

I think by the time Montagna was in charge, the family was in so much disarray that they needed anybody willing to take the throne. Back when Basciano was in charge, there was still competition for the acting boss title which is why Mancuso squabbled with Cicale.

[slimshady_007]

Johnny Joe will be released to a halfway house July, August of 2020. As much as he may be pissed at his son’s bullshit he’s still his son. If anyone thinks Johnny doesn’t hold A TON of power within that family is drunk. Regardless of what “rank” guys are listed at on some of these charts there are certain guys in each family that have more clout and are feared then guys who may be “ranked” above them. Within the Bonanno’s Johnny Joe is that guy. It should be interesting to see what transpires.

What would he be pissed at his son for?

[gohnjotti]

Nepa, Johnny Joe was no more than a soldier, no?

[johnny_scootch]

Johnny Joe will be released to a halfway house July, August of 2020. As much as he may be pissed at his son’s bullshit he’s still his son. If anyone thinks Johnny doesn’t hold A TON of power within that family is drunk. Regardless of what “rank” guys are listed at on some of these charts there are certain guys in each family that have more clout and are feared then guys who may be “ranked” above them. Within the Bonanno’s Johnny Joe is that guy. It should be interesting to see what transpires.

What would he be pissed at his son for?

His son got shelved so he fucked up somewhere along the line. Embarrassed his father.

[CTamg65]

Johnny Joe is from the bronx crew he definetely doesnt play games hes a legit tough guy my cousin did a little time on part of his Fed bid w him and said hes respected by everyone to say the least and like Nepa stated regardless of Rank Johnny Joe holds sway in thay family i think probably even more if Mikey is running things they both came up in the bronx im pretty sure they were both very close to Patsy Defillipo could be wrong though
..some guys regatdless of rank are very powerful especially within there own families theres some very powerful soldiers who probably get more respect then some captains hell theres very powerful Associates....as far as Johnny Joes son hes a junkie or at least when the feds ran down on him he was caught getting high in the parking lot in a car w some other addicts supposedly hes shelved but with mancuso running shit now and his dad coming home he may very well come off that shelf if true