by Wiseguy » Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:57 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:43 pm
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:29 pm
TommyGambino wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:54 pmCapeci has them both as captains
I am aware.
So maybe explain
While what Capeci reports does hold a lot of weight with me, it isn't necessarily the final word if there is other information to consider.
For example, in 2019 and 2020 he identified Alphonse Malangone as a captain. There hasn't been a case involving that crew in over 20 years and there are only a few known members of that crew still living. The same could be said about Thomas Ficarotta, who Capeci identified as a captain in 2015. There hasn't been a case involving that crew since the 1990s and only a couple known crew members living. Same for Silvio DeVita, who Capeci identified as a captain in 2020. DeVita is in his 90s now, there are only a few known crew members still living, and the last case I'm aware of was in the 1990s. For the same reasons, I really wonder about the Santorelli crew in the Lucchese family. I also have to wonder about the DeSimone crew in the Bonanno family. I'm also not sold on Anthony Fasitta, Alphonse DiPilato, Cologero Davi, Paul LoDuca, Joseph Lubrano, Vincent Beltempo, Salvatore Franco, Louis DeVito, and Thomas Farese even being captains at this point.
Capeci identified John Barbato as a captain in 2018 and 2019, and maybe it was true at the time, but as I said Barbato is pushing 90 and I suspect John LaRocca took over that crew. Which, unlike the others mentioned above,
has had ongoing cases.
I've long suspected there was more overlap amongst people listed as captains than some might think. I look at crew histories, who is indicted with who, the amount of indictments over the years, the size of the family overall, and so on. Not only do I think Daniel Marino and George Lombardozzi are the same crew, I also think the same applies to Salvatore Gigante and Nicholas Calisi, Barry Nichilo and Anthony Palumbo, Domenico Cefalu and Domenico Acquista, John Rizzo and Ernest Grillo, John Spirito Sr and Ernest Aiello, Vincent Riccardo, and Dennis DeLucia, and Teddy Persico and Carmine Persico. I personally think the days of any of the New York families having 15-20+ crews are gone.
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[quote=TommyGambino post_id=263601 time=1687557281 user_id=726]Capeci has them both as captains
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I am aware.
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So maybe explain
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While what Capeci reports does hold a lot of weight with me, it isn't necessarily the final word if there is other information to consider.
For example, in 2019 and 2020 he identified Alphonse Malangone as a captain. There hasn't been a case involving that crew in over 20 years and there are only a few known members of that crew still living. The same could be said about Thomas Ficarotta, who Capeci identified as a captain in 2015. There hasn't been a case involving that crew since the 1990s and only a couple known crew members living. Same for Silvio DeVita, who Capeci identified as a captain in 2020. DeVita is in his 90s now, there are only a few known crew members still living, and the last case I'm aware of was in the 1990s. For the same reasons, I really wonder about the Santorelli crew in the Lucchese family. I also have to wonder about the DeSimone crew in the Bonanno family. I'm also not sold on Anthony Fasitta, Alphonse DiPilato, Cologero Davi, Paul LoDuca, Joseph Lubrano, Vincent Beltempo, Salvatore Franco, Louis DeVito, and Thomas Farese even being captains at this point.
Capeci identified John Barbato as a captain in 2018 and 2019, and maybe it was true at the time, but as I said Barbato is pushing 90 and I suspect John LaRocca took over that crew. Which, unlike the others mentioned above, [i]has[/i] had ongoing cases.
I've long suspected there was more overlap amongst people listed as captains than some might think. I look at crew histories, who is indicted with who, the amount of indictments over the years, the size of the family overall, and so on. Not only do I think Daniel Marino and George Lombardozzi are the same crew, I also think the same applies to Salvatore Gigante and Nicholas Calisi, Barry Nichilo and Anthony Palumbo, Domenico Cefalu and Domenico Acquista, John Rizzo and Ernest Grillo, John Spirito Sr and Ernest Aiello, Vincent Riccardo, and Dennis DeLucia, and Teddy Persico and Carmine Persico. I personally think the days of any of the New York families having 15-20+ crews are gone.