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Marcow is really furio or nah?

Regarding guys who are very wealthy from legit businesses (like the colombo guys)....at this point, are they even involved in rackets?

ROSATTI owns the burgherfi. chain also looking to take it public

[quote="baldo"]There's rich guys in every family and brokesters in every family. Don't the colombos have those two guys in florida that are car dealers that are practicaly billionaires? The Genovese have the Pontes who own all of Tribeca....it's pointless to speculate as it's not like these guys all have profit sharing arrangement with members of their family other than kicking up to the boss.[/quote]

Staluppi and Rosatti. Staluppi owns car dealerships, a yacht company, strip clubs, among other things. Rosatti owns restaurants, real estate, etc.

You're right, there are rich members and brokesters in every family. As I've often said, both ends of that spectrum seem to be the minority with most members more or less middle class.

In the past, the Genovese and Gambino families have been referred to as the two "millionaire crime families." Not that the others don't have guys who are millionaires but those two families have a greater amount, both proportionally and in total numbers.

And when the Genovese family is referred to as the wealthiest family, it doesn't mean they don't have guys who are middle class or brokesters. Just that, on average, members of that family are richer than those in other families. And the organization as a whole is richer. And even if the Gambino members Marco mentioned were the wealthiest of all, and we have no way of knowing that, it wouldn't change that fact.

correct Baldo.many very rich men.very broke guys also s you said

There's rich guys in every family and brokesters in every family. Don't the colombos have those two guys in florida that are car dealers that are practicaly billionaires? The Genovese have the Pontes who own all of Tribeca....it's pointless to speculate as it's not like these guys all have profit sharing arrangement with members of their family other than kicking up to the boss.

It's useless trying to explain any of this to this Marco guy. He gets told what he does on here, then goes to another forum with the same exact questions and false implications, like the Gambinos were the stronger family than the Genovese.

[quote="MarcoW"]Richard Martino also a very rich member of the Gmabinos i see no Genovese in this time have Money like Members of the Gambinos.

Thommy Gambino, John Gambino, ichart Martino, Frank Cali this are the richest alive mobster in the USA.

Also the Rizzutos are richer than any member of the genovese family.

Thats the true, no Genovese member have money like this no one.


Here the wikipedia from Thommy Gambino a qoute:


By the 1990s, Thomas Gambino owned three homes; one in Florida, another in Lido Beach, New York, and a third on Manhattan's exclusive Upper East Side.[5] Thomas Gambino also headed the Gambino Medical and Science Foundation, which in 1991 financed a $2 million pediatric bone marrow transplant unit at Long Island Jewish Medical Center. Estimates of Thomas Gambino's personal wealth go up to $75 million.



Here a link to Richard Martino


http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/650m-porn-scam-gambino-thugs-plead-guilty-x-rated-ring-article-1.658108



Here a qoute from John Gambino wikipedia

Giovanni Falcone, the investigating magistrate who was assigned the investigation into heroin trafficking case in 1980, estimated that by the late 1970s the Inzerillo-Gambino-Spatola network was smuggling US$600 million worth of heroin into the US each year.



The Gambinos was also in the past the biggest and richest in the drug business....





I can with no problem 10 and also more very rich members oft the Gambino list here....


Thats the reality. Whats Mob experts.... call is for me nothing i must belive.


Come on Guys you know 5 Alive People from the Genovese that also makes this art of Money? No sure not.





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Thomas Gambino's wealth is pretty well established because much of came from ostensibly legitimate businesses. But, aside from them all obviously being well off, we really don't know how much money guys like Gambino, Cali, or Martino have. And even if all those figures you insist on quoting from Wikipedia were true, all you've done is show these specific Gambino members are rich. It doesn't necessarily have any baring on the relative wealth between the Gambino and Genovese families. You do realize these guys try to hide their wealth as much as possible right? So just because you can't identify any Genovese members with millions attributed to them on Wikipedia or some blog, it doesn't mean there aren't any.

It's almost like you see the Gambinos as a sports team you're rooting for and you [i]want[/i] them to be the richest and most powerful. Why else would you ignore the law enforcement officials who have investigated the mob, or journalists and mob experts who have studied and written about the mob, who across the board say the Genovese family is the top mob organization in the country in terms of both wealth and power? I suppose I could post quotes that show this over the past 25 years but you'd just ignore them because it's not what you want to believe.

And once again, while drugs are the most lucrative criminal racket, gambling is actually a bigger money maker for the mob than drugs. How? Because the mob (including the Gambinos) is more involved in gambling than it is in narcotics. As I said before, while the mob has been pretty successful in maintaining the lion's share of illegal bookmaking wherever there is still an active family, it's been marginalized in the drug trade for the last 30 years. And the Genovese have the largest bookmaking operations in the New York/New Jersey area.

here a qoute from the articel

Richard Martino, a slender 47-year-old, favors Prada shoes and until recently drove a sleek black Mercedes-Benz. He has owned multimillion-dollar homes in Harrison and Southampton, N.Y. He spent much of the last decade running a telecommunications and Internet business to which his expertise helped bring in hundreds of millions of dollars. By one accounting, he made tens of millions for himself.

This guys far far the richest of all in new york city, in italy everebody knows this.... also in the rest form europe also the usa see the genovse in the first front

This is a good articel about Martino


http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/nyregion/10mob.html

Trying to assess a mobsters 'net worth' or 'income' is an utter waste of time.

@Cheech

Good in a Forum Drugs, you know that with drugs makes the oc worldwide the most money....

Thats the reason why the Ndrangheta the biggest Mafias of all italian and italo american is....


Here are a lot experst....

Richard Martino also a very rich member of the Gmabinos i see no Genovese in this time have Money like Members of the Gambinos.

Thommy Gambino, John Gambino, ichart Martino, Frank Cali this are the richest alive mobster in the USA.

Also the Rizzutos are richer than any member of the genovese family.

Thats the true, no Genovese member have money like this no one.


Here the wikipedia from Thommy Gambino a qoute:


By the 1990s, Thomas Gambino owned three homes; one in Florida, another in Lido Beach, New York, and a third on Manhattan's exclusive Upper East Side.[5] Thomas Gambino also headed the Gambino Medical and Science Foundation, which in 1991 financed a $2 million pediatric bone marrow transplant unit at Long Island Jewish Medical Center. Estimates of Thomas Gambino's personal wealth go up to $75 million.



Here a link to Richard Martino


http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/650m-porn-scam-gambino-thugs-plead-guilty-x-rated-ring-article-1.658108



Here a qoute from John Gambino wikipedia

Giovanni Falcone, the investigating magistrate who was assigned the investigation into heroin trafficking case in 1980, estimated that by the late 1970s the Inzerillo-Gambino-Spatola network was smuggling US$600 million worth of heroin into the US each year.



The Gambinos was also in the past the biggest and richest in the drug business....





I can with no problem 10 and also more very rich members oft the Gambino list here....


Thats the reality. Whats Mob experts.... call is for me nothing i must belive.


Come on Guys you know 5 Alive People from the Genovese that also makes this art of Money? No sure not.





Regards

Genovese are far far and above. Too many numerous reasons why. They are so entrenched in garbage and unions you will never get them out.
International drugs lol. Fantasy. Sounds good in a forum. Far from truth.