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Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Etna » Sat Oct 12, 2024 6:31 am

The Persicos are the definition of nepotism.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by JoePuzzles234 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:59 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:18 am nick Nardi is realted to the milanos , Nick was a officer in the IAB CLUB , no surprise he was in photos with those guys , there are tons of photos of carmen with those guys from the iab club which the milanos owned
Yeah, John and Nicholas A. Nardi were first cousins with the Milano brothers via the DiSanto-Nardi marriage. As late as 2019 there was a portrait of Anthony Milano in the Cleveland IAB club, not sure if it is still there nowadays.
Stroccos wrote: , there is another nepo guy russ masseta , The photo people are claiming to be masseta wedding its not his wedding . Milano making a few guys he could trust , his brother and son in law ,
I know Rusty as well , actually did my flooring at a nice discount which still is great shape years later ,
Agreed on Masetta, very clearly only a member because of his father-in-law. Outside of Nicholas Paul Nardi (d. 1988), Michael Comparetti and the Caci crew, the associates inducted by Milano were either his relatives or guys that were connected to his faction. The Caci brothers appear to have been first affiliated with Michael Rizzitello in the 1970s but alternatively could have been connected to Milano via Frank Stellino in Palm Springs.

The photo I am referencing is the one with Carmen Milano and Peter's daughter (it's my understanding that it is from the 1976 wedding), not the group pictures with Milano, Nardi and Masetta.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Stroccos » Sat Sep 21, 2024 7:18 am

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:42 am
Stroccos wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:51 pm True that Anthony Milano was dead by then , but many syndicate peoples sons got respect for simply being someones son , i don't recall every meeting Peter so I cant comment on him, although it would seem Peter father helped him get associated but as you stated he cut his own teeth in LA for the most part ,being from Cleveland
Peter acted as an usher at Anna Dragna's wedding to Steve Niotta along with Paul Adamo (Girolamo's stepson), through the relationship between Anthony/Josephine Milano and Jack/Frances Dragna so his family connections would have definitely helped early on.
Stroccos wrote: I can only guess Peter wanted someone he could fully trust as no 2 , it would be interesting to KNow what Jimmy Caci thought of Carmen , We know Jack Locicerio had zero repsect for him he was caught on a wire bad mouthing the mILanos , to me he's a nepo baby and not a tuff guy at all I wouldn't fear him even if he was underboss
Yes, despite their later problems it does appear that Peter was closer to Carmen than Frank Angelo and John or at least trusted him the most from a criminal standpoint. There are photos of Carmen with Nicholas A. Nardi and Russell Masetta as well as pictures of him at Masetta's wedding to Peter's daughter (February 1976, when Pete would have been in Terminal Island), which helps to demonstrate their relationship.

Kenji doesn't seem to have shared anything about Jimmy Caci and Carmen interacting (outside of the Palm Springs ceremony) but we do know that Stephen Cino (later Jimmy's acting captain) would meet with Milano at John Mascia's deli in Las Vegas with Gallo at times. They don't seem to have had any problems with each other but we obviously can't assume that extended to the rest of the crew.

As for LoCicero, he was an old-time member and formerly under Michael Rizzitello so his opinions about the brothers were probably doubly negative. Peter Milano doesn't seem to have really valued the consigliere position much either way - LoCicero was a leftover from the Brooklier admin and was never formally replaced after he died.

Both Fiato and Gallo believed Carmen to be the "tougher brother" but that doesn't really mean much in a 1980s California family.
nick Nardi is realted to the milanos , Nick was a officer in the IAB CLUB , no surprise he was in photos with those guys , there are tons of photos of carmen with those guys from the iab club which the milanos owned , there is another nepo guy russ masseta , The photo people are claiming to be masseta wedding its not his wedding . Milano making a few guys he could trust , his brother and son in law ,
I know Rusty as well , actually did my flooring at a nice discount which still is great shape years later ,

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by JoePuzzles234 » Sat Sep 21, 2024 6:42 am

Stroccos wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:51 pm True that Anthony Milano was dead by then , but many syndicate peoples sons got respect for simply being someones son , i don't recall every meeting Peter so I cant comment on him, although it would seem Peter father helped him get associated but as you stated he cut his own teeth in LA for the most part ,being from Cleveland
Peter acted as an usher at Anna Dragna's wedding to Steve Niotta along with Paul Adamo (Girolamo's stepson), through the relationship between Anthony/Josephine Milano and Jack/Frances Dragna so his family connections would have definitely helped early on.
Stroccos wrote: I can only guess Peter wanted someone he could fully trust as no 2 , it would be interesting to KNow what Jimmy Caci thought of Carmen , We know Jack Locicerio had zero repsect for him he was caught on a wire bad mouthing the mILanos , to me he's a nepo baby and not a tuff guy at all I wouldn't fear him even if he was underboss
Yes, despite their later problems it does appear that Peter was closer to Carmen than Frank Angelo and John or at least trusted him the most from a criminal standpoint. There are photos of Carmen with Nicholas A. Nardi and Russell Masetta as well as pictures of him at Masetta's wedding to Peter's daughter (February 1976, when Pete would have been in Terminal Island), which helps to demonstrate their relationship.

Kenji doesn't seem to have shared anything about Jimmy Caci and Carmen interacting (outside of the Palm Springs ceremony) but we do know that Stephen Cino (later Jimmy's acting captain) would meet with Milano at John Mascia's deli in Las Vegas with Gallo at times. They don't seem to have had any problems with each other but we obviously can't assume that extended to the rest of the crew.

As for LoCicero, he was an old-time member and formerly under Michael Rizzitello so his opinions about the brothers were probably doubly negative. Peter Milano doesn't seem to have really valued the consigliere position much either way - LoCicero was a leftover from the Brooklier admin and was never formally replaced after he died.

Both Fiato and Gallo believed Carmen to be the "tougher brother" but that doesn't really mean much in a 1980s California family.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Stroccos » Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:51 pm

JoePuzzles234 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 7:00 am
Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:36 am I would add Carmen Milano to that list , never would have been made hadn't been for his dad being a legend , and brother becoming La boss ,
I think Anthony Milano had very little to do with Carmen becoming a member, it was very clearly his brother Peter who brought him to Southern California. Despite their later issues in the 1990s when activity for Los Angeles briefly ramped up in the early-to-mid 1980s, Carmen was his brother's strongest supporter (outside of Louie Gelfuso) and it's pretty easy to see why he would be made the underboss instead of someone like Jimmy Caci or Jack LoCicero.

From Craig Fiato's account, Carmen was apparently also better connected to the New York families.

We often hear from Fratianno and Kenji Gallo that Peter Milano was only made as a result of nepotism but that glosses over the fact that he had been an associate since the late 1940s, was at one point married to an important San Jose member's daughter and through connections with the Dippolito/Brooklier crew, had built up his own operations in San Fernando etc.
True that Anthony Milano was dead by then , but many syndicate peoples sons got respect for simply being someones son , i don't recall every meeting Peter so I cant comment on him, although it would seem Peter father helped him get associated but as you stated he cut his own teeth in LA for the most part ,being from Cleveland
I did meet Carmen Milano before always was nice guy , a good friend of mine was busted in the workman comp case with him , Carmen or another made guys son whose names escapes was his lawyer , flushed his life when he lost his law license , could of made a great living as a attorney had he played in straight just doing WC and teamster work , he was never getting made in Cleveland zero chance , with out his brother being boss he never gets made anywhere ,
I can only guess Peter wanted someone he could fully trust as no 2 , it would be interesting to KNow what Jimmy Caci thought of Carmen , We know Jack Locicerio had zero repsect for him he was caught on a wire bad mouthing the mILanos , to me he's a nepo baby and not a tuff guy at all I wouldn't fear him even if he was underboss

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by CornerBoy » Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:05 pm

Ridgewood 79 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:01 am Jr Gotti 1000 percent I seen that debacle personally just didn't wanna start a mob tube thing on this forum especially with dudes dum sister God she's stupid πŸ˜‚
not john gotti's daughter. fbi report from the 70's talking about it that ive seen. why would the cops lie when he was just a young thug.

Junior is a rat, which i have no problem with but he shouldn't espouse all that omerta tough guy shit.

Funny how she never talks about her brother and nephew living w her mom selling oxy's, destroying HB.

Nevermentions uncle vinnie.

She's a dumb, vapid, insipid retard.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Adam » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:37 pm

pat_marcy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 6:38 am Detroit must have a few nepo babies surely
I think for Detroit the one that sticks out is Anthony Zerilli. If not for his dad kind of seems like he would have been a nobody. Caused all kinds of problems for the family. I'd put Michael Polizzi on that list too. And Nove Tocco.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Ridgewood 79 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:01 am

Jr Gotti 1000 percent I seen that debacle personally just didn't wanna start a mob tube thing on this forum especially with dudes dum sister God she's stupid πŸ˜‚

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by pat_marcy » Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:49 am

What about leonetti?

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by pat_marcy » Tue Sep 17, 2024 12:45 am

Ok. I stand corrected. Cheers for the info boys

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Laughmatics » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:23 pm

Nicky Scarfo Jr took 5 shots from an Uzi, said nothing. Took a 30-year sentence on the chin, said nothing. And he proved that he can make money. It matters not what he did when his father was on the streets, he cut his own cloth.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by johnny_scootch » Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:14 pm

Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:40 pm Junior Gotti is a big example. He was made very young without having to do anything and very soon after was promoted to Captain (the youngest in the country) without really doing anything other than being the son of the Boss.


Pogo
Good call, I’d say he’s actually the poster boy for nepotism in the mafia.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by Pogo The Clown » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:40 pm

Junior Gotti is a big example. He was made very young without having to do anything and very soon after was promoted to Captain (the youngest in the country) without really doing anything other than being the son of the Boss.


Pogo

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by johnny_scootch » Mon Sep 16, 2024 5:16 pm

pat_marcy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:16 pm So he was a nepo baby till his dad went away you could say haha
No actually you couldn't say that at all.

Re: Nepotism in the mob

by pat_marcy » Mon Sep 16, 2024 4:16 pm

So he was a nepo baby till his dad went away you could say haha

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