Vito Genovese the worst boss?

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Vito Genovese the worst boss?

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I always see that Genovese was the worst boss in his family since he was acting boss in the 1930s, because of Apalachin, Valachi and many other things, now my doubt is: he was really the worst head of the Genovese family?
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someone? :D
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Yes he could be the worst boss the Genoveses ever had. Apalachin and Valachi like you mentioned. He didn't last long on the streets.
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Vito was a major international criminal. He may not of had much time on the street as boss but his fingerprints are still on the crime family to this day.
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DPG wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 8:15 am Vito was a major international criminal. He may not of had much time on the street as boss but his fingerprints are still on the crime family to this day.
Yes it's a hard question to answer, they haven't really had what you would call a terrible boss.
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Allways wondered why the fam wasnt labeled as Luciano Fam
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Weren't the names from the Valachi time period
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Yeah, they were from the Valachi Charts. Except the Magliocco Family got changed to Colombo, think that may have been because Magliocco died/was replaced in the middle of the Valachi Hearings. Not sure though.
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The fact that he was acting boss after Luciano's arrest, his relationship with Mussolini in Italy, and it seems that in the 1950s because he's a more street guy, he got respect for trying to kill Costello, but still he seems to be always labeled the worst boss.
From what I read, the idea of the meeting being in Apalachin was Stefano Magaddino, so Genovese is not 100% to blame for what happened.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:05 am Allways wondered why the fam wasnt labeled as Luciano Fam
Because Genovese took over and renamed it his own family same as Colombo did
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NinoFromNYC2 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:57 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:05 am Allways wondered why the fam wasnt labeled as Luciano Fam
Because Genovese took over and renamed it his own family same as Colombo did
The families were never meant to have names. There was a purposeful level of ambiguity involved with knowing who was with who. You had to be in the know to figure it out. They didn't go around saying 'Hey we're the Genovese family' the families got their media labels from the Valachi Hearings (with the exception of the Colombos) as Camo and Frank stated above not from bosses sending out memos with name change orders a la Massino.
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NinoFromNYC2 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:57 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:05 am Allways wondered why the fam wasnt labeled as Luciano Fam
Because Genovese took over and renamed it his own family same as Colombo did
Those are the names simply because they were boss when the Valachi hearings took place.
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DPG wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:23 pm
NinoFromNYC2 wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 4:57 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:05 am Allways wondered why the fam wasnt labeled as Luciano Fam
Because Genovese took over and renamed it his own family same as Colombo did
Those are the names simply because they were boss when the Valachi hearings took place.
And members of the families themselves eventually started using them.
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Maybe the worst could be the guy that made people in their underware
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The thing about Valachi is; weve had threads about what Family he really was.... Bonanno, Genovese or Lukes.

I think the consesus was somehow the Lukes...
Even tho he was made by the Bonannos
And said he was in the Genovese
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