stubbs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:00 am
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:21 pm
stubbs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:45 pmAlso, my guess is the majority of the Buffalo family’s power is in Hamilton. Whether that’s 80/20 or 95/5 or whatever, I don’t know. But my guess is in terms of made guys operating on the actual streets of Buffalo, like actually running rackets, has to be no more than 5... 10 guys tops.
While I think your theory is plausible, as was discussed earlier in this thread, the majority of the remaining membership is in Buffalo. And that's where most of the cases, few and far between as they've been, have come over the past 20 years. This idea that people have come up with that the power is now on Hamilton or anywhere else in Canada has really no basis.
You could be right, and if you are that’s very wild to me... considering up until recently we all couldnt even agree if they had gone defunct or not. I had always was on the side that they were dead, but will admit I was completely wrong.
I wonder what kind of rackets they’re running in Buffalo? Also, I wonder how deeply involved in drugs they are?
The "few and far between" cases I was referring to have been minor, sporadic stuff. I've posted them here before.
The point is, this idea people have come up with that the power is now in Canada, just because of one moderate drug bust and a Canadian guy being named underboss, is baseless. If there's more members on the U.S. side, and even less cases on the Canadian side, what does that say? Especially considering what the FBI has said about the family.
Don't get caught up in all the recent hype. Little to nothing will happen with this "resurgent family" in the years to come and only then will people see recent events for the anomoly they are. As I've said, its basically Detroit all over again on these forums.
Lupara wrote:The fact that for the first time in history a Canadian has been named underboss of a US based family is no basis of that for you, along with the fact of a lack of activity on the US border?
No, it's not. Violi is likely an anomoly, as I keep saying over and over again. And there's been even more lack of activity on the Canadian side of the border. But you guys keep acting like we've seen case after case showing a robust part of the family in Canada and there's nothing really showing that.
NickleCity wrote:@Wiseguy, I'm with you on this. Buffalo may have a significant numbers (for a small family) in Southern Ontario, but that does not mean 80-90% of the family is in Canada. Buffalo is a small family (comparatively speaking) so it makes sense that the number of cases in the last 20 years would be much smaller than the larger families in NYC. It think folks have to remember that the Todaro crime family doesn't just have a presence in Buffalo and Hamilton, but has a small presence in most of WNY including the Niagara Frontier, the Southern Tier, Rochester, and possibly Rome/Utica. I, also, believe they still have a presence in Vegas--given John Pieri is out there, Panaro is back and forth, and the HOA scam involving guys tied Buffalo a few years back.
Don't put too much stock in a guy or two being out in Vegas equating to the family having a presence there. Just because Stango was living in Vegas, that didn't really mean the DeCavalcante family was active there. Back in 2000, the feds considered the 5 NY families and the Chicago Outfit to be the only families to still have a presence in Vegas. And that was nearly 20 years ago now. I'm not sure that could be said about any family at this point.
All roads lead to New York.