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phatmatress777 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:49 pm Same here...even when I was on heroin I kept my posts non fantansy...let's not blame substances just admit it hi my name is super and I made a bullshit thread I'll work on it
Heh, I was just fucking with the guy, but yeah.

I have posted weird stuff in the past while wacked out on kratom... usually just strange attempts at humor, like that thing a few years back when I went off about how someone needed to make a musical about Scarfo. My current avatar was also drug-fueled (it isn't something I would make while sober).

But no, even at my worst I never started a thread like this. :mrgreen:
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Ivan wrote:
phatmatress777 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:49 pm Same here...even when I was on heroin I kept my posts non fantansy...let's not blame substances just admit it hi my name is super and I made a bullshit thread I'll work on it
Heh, I was just fucking with the guy, but yeah.

I have posted weird stuff in the past while wacked out on kratom... usually just strange attempts at humor, like that thing a few years back when I went off about how someone needed to make a musical about Scarfo. My current avatar was also drug-fueled (it isn't something I would make while sober).

But no, even at my worst I never started a thread like this. :mrgreen:
Im just fuckin with the dude myself...hope he gets used to bustin balls...

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I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
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Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
U forgot drugs and extorting companies and small businesses.
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Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
Stock pump and dump
long distance credit card fraud
medicare fraud
bust out schemes
protection/extorion
labor unions is a big one-
construction
garbage
ports/waterfront
garment center
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SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 am
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
Stock pump and dump
long distance credit card fraud
medicare fraud
bust out schemes
protection/extorion
labor unions is a big one-
construction
garbage
ports/waterfront
garment center
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Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:26 pm
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 am
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
Stock pump and dump
long distance credit card fraud
medicare fraud
bust out schemes
protection/extorion
labor unions is a big one-
construction
garbage
ports/waterfront
garment center
Nice.
Illegal dumping is also a very lucrative racket. In d'arcos book he mentions a dump making around 100k a week for letting companys dump hazardous waste illegally. The ndrangheta have made millions dumping nuclear waste off the coast of Somalia as well.
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givememysocks wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 7:59 pm
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:26 pm
SILENT PARTNERZ wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:46 am
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am I’ve wondered this for some time. Can someone give me an extensive list of Mob schemed & scams.

I’m aware of the bread and butter schemes. Such as:

Loansharking,
Bookmaking,
Gambling,
Hijacking,
Burglary,

Etc. What else is there? Anybody got any complex ones?
Stock pump and dump
long distance credit card fraud
medicare fraud
bust out schemes
protection/extorion
labor unions is a big one-
construction
garbage
ports/waterfront
garment center
Nice.
Illegal dumping is also a very lucrative racket. In d'arcos book he mentions a dump making around 100k a week for letting companys dump hazardous waste illegally. The ndrangheta have made millions dumping nuclear waste off the coast of Somalia as well.
Interesting. What sort of money do the Mob make from garbage disposal. Like, what sort of schemes / deals. How does it work.
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Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am Interesting. What sort of money do the Mob make from garbage disposal. Like, what sort of schemes / deals. How does it work.
The economics of it are pretty simple. In the construction industry there are huge ammounts of waste produced, some of which can be toxic like lead paint and asbestos. Proper disposal of waste like this can be very expensive. The mob simply takes the waste and dumps it into a river or empty plot of land and pockets the money it would have cost to dump it legally. I dont think there have been many recent cases involving the american mafia but the ndrangheta are still active in dumping. Here are a few articles on the subject.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94236.html


https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2 ... _says.html
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givememysocks wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:18 pm
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am Interesting. What sort of money do the Mob make from garbage disposal. Like, what sort of schemes / deals. How does it work.
The economics of it are pretty simple. In the construction industry there are huge ammounts of waste produced, some of which can be toxic like lead paint and asbestos. Proper disposal of waste like this can be very expensive. The mob simply takes the waste and dumps it into a river or empty plot of land and pockets the money it would have cost to dump it legally. I dont think there have been many recent cases involving the american mafia but the ndrangheta are still active in dumping. Here are a few articles on the subject.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94236.html


https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2 ... _says.html
Thanks man, appreciate it. Got any other ways they make money? Whether that be garbage disposal or Construction? Like schemes
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Bennyxo wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:59 pm
givememysocks wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:18 pm
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am Interesting. What sort of money do the Mob make from garbage disposal. Like, what sort of schemes / deals. How does it work.
The economics of it are pretty simple. In the construction industry there are huge ammounts of waste produced, some of which can be toxic like lead paint and asbestos. Proper disposal of waste like this can be very expensive. The mob simply takes the waste and dumps it into a river or empty plot of land and pockets the money it would have cost to dump it legally. I dont think there have been many recent cases involving the american mafia but the ndrangheta are still active in dumping. Here are a few articles on the subject.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94236.html


https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2 ... _says.html
Thanks man, appreciate it. Got any other ways they make money? Whether that be garbage disposal or Construction? Like schemes
I'd suggest that you read indictments and FBI files. They are both full of what your looking for.
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Bennyxo wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:59 pm
givememysocks wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:18 pm
Bennyxo wrote: Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:55 am Interesting. What sort of money do the Mob make from garbage disposal. Like, what sort of schemes / deals. How does it work.
The economics of it are pretty simple. In the construction industry there are huge ammounts of waste produced, some of which can be toxic like lead paint and asbestos. Proper disposal of waste like this can be very expensive. The mob simply takes the waste and dumps it into a river or empty plot of land and pockets the money it would have cost to dump it legally. I dont think there have been many recent cases involving the american mafia but the ndrangheta are still active in dumping. Here are a few articles on the subject.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 94236.html


https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2 ... _says.html
Thanks man, appreciate it. Got any other ways they make money? Whether that be garbage disposal or Construction? Like schemes
With construction you have sweetheart deals where a mob-connected union will allow contractors to use cheaper non-union labor in return for bribes and no-show jobs. There's also kickbacks for rigged bids. Padding construction costs. And so on.

With garbage the mob has always tried to enforce illegal territorial rights in order to have as much monopoly as possible. But their control is vastly diminished compared to what it was 20+ years ago so, while there is still involvement, you see more activity in trucking for construction and demolition debris.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:21 pm With garbage the mob has always tried to enforce illegal territorial rights in order to have as much monopoly as possible. But their control is vastly diminished compared to what it was 20+ years ago so..
Hey, garbage is our bread and butter!!
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BillyBrizzi wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:51 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 7:21 pm With garbage the mob has always tried to enforce illegal territorial rights in order to have as much monopoly as possible. But their control is vastly diminished compared to what it was 20+ years ago so..
Hey, garbage is our bread and butter!!
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The 'coffee boy' union scam is still going as of March 2018 - (https://nypost.com/2018/03/05/union-wor ... ffee-suit/). If the mob still has the same control over the scam as they did in 2011, then they would be making $250 from each job site run by Local 6A of the Cement and Concrete Workers Union (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/c ... e-1.148256).
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