Ralph Coppola

[DPG]

The gangland article naming him as such came out in 2014

[Pogo The Clown]

Who knows. I'm sure his parole restriction played a role in him not immediately assuming the Boss. Position. There were probably other factors as well.


Pogo

[Frank]

Do not recall that he was angling for AB.

He was allegedly complaining about being passed over for Serpico. I belive he was also alleged to have been skimming money. It was probably a combination of things tht led to him getting whacked.

How long has Barney been out on the street as boss now?

He got out of prison in 2008. He has been Boss since about 2014.


Pogo

Why was he named boss six yrs after walking out of prison? Restrictions for Parole? Or LE confirmed it in an indictment of some sort in 2014. Seems he has had a say prior to 2014 no? I would imagine he used a series of front acting bosses and panels etc

I was just reading the Capeci article about Barney being boss. It came out in January of 2016. It states that Barney has been boss for for the last few years. No year was mentioned. It states that he was released from prison in December of 2008. Then had 3 years of supervised release. So that takes it up to almost 2012. So while 2014 is safe for a few years, it's just an estimate. It could have been anytime after he was off restrictions. Those are the current facts that we have. Now if we are speculating, it's definitely possible that he has been boss since The Chin died, with acting boss and panels until he was released and off of restrictions, but that is not confirmed and only speculation. Another speculation is that Leo could have been official boss and not acting. Info gets updated and changed over years.

[Pogo The Clown]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

[Wiseguy]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

+1

[Frank]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

Ok I didn't know it was confirmed that panel was still in place in 2014. That definitely puts him in as boss sometime after early 2014. I still find it strange that they didn't have an official boss for 9 or 10 years.

[Frank]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

+1

Do we know if ruling panel was still in place when Leo and Mangano were both out of prison, before Leo was indicted in 2007.

[Rocco]

If we are going off of Capeci and LE we could use that date. And I would imagine no one wants the title "Official Boss" in this day an age. But I would have to imagine that Barney has been the family's leader since Chins death. I think the panel and any acting boss they had probably referred to him. I believe that anyone wether it be a panel or acting boss was acting on his behalf since the death of Chin. If Leo held more sway and the family supported him as boss...he'd be boss today. Who knows? And that exactly what they want you to think ! lol

[Frank]

If we are going off of Capeci and LE we could use that date. And I would imagine no one wants the title "Official Boss" in this day an age. But I would have to imagine that Barney has been the family's leader since Chins death. I think the panel and any acting boss they had probably referred to him. I believe that anyone wether it be a panel or acting boss was acting on his behalf since the death of Chin. If Leo held more sway and the family supported him as boss...he'd be boss today. Who knows? And that exactly what they want you to think ! lol

That's basically my theory too. Like I've said before I'm officially going by what LE and Capeci has said, but wouldn't be surprised if they change it in the future. That period of Leo being Chins last acting boss, the Chins death, and Leo indicted sticks in my mind and along with Bellomo getting out that it could be possible that one was the Chins replacement shortly after his death. For one I don't think it helped leaders to be acting, by that time, look it all the panel and acting bosses who got indicted at that point.

[Wiseguy]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

+1

Do we know if ruling panel was still in place when Leo and Mangano were both out of prison, before Leo was indicted in 2007.

In January 2005, Dominick Cirillo, Larry Dentico, and Mario Gigante were reported by Capeci to be on the ruling panel.

Cirillo was indicted as acting boss in April 2005. Matthew Ianniello was an acting boss in July 2005. The feds later said Danny Leo (who had been on the ruling panel) became acting boss in 2005 so it may have been after that. Capeci wrote about Leo being the acting boss in November 2006 and he was indicted as such in May 2007.

In June 2009, an article identified Benny Mangano, Ernie Muscarella, Barney Bellomo, and Larry Dentico as being on a "rotating panel" of recently released senior members running the family.

Anyway, it would seem there has been a ruling panel in place since the time Cirillo created it not long after he became acting boss in 1997 until at least 2009 when another article said Tino Fiumara had been on a 3-man panel. It probably went on for longer than that, at least until Bellomo took over as official boss.

[SonnyBlackstein]

This ain’t the Dave Clark Five.

[Pogo The Clown]

This ain’t the Dave Clark Five.

Maybe there could be a power-sharing situation. Three of the other families have this kind of arrangement.


Pogo

[jimmy_beans8]

Perfect timing sonny........

[Wiseguy]

This ain’t the Dave Clark Five.

Maybe there could be a power-sharing situation. Three of the other families have this kind of arrangement.


Pogo

That's not all its cracked up to be, believe you me.

[slimshady_007]

The ruling panel was still in place up to early 2014 so Bellomo would have become Boss sometime after that. There was no official Boss in the years after Gigante died. No need to over complicate things.


Pogo

+1

Do we know if ruling panel was still in place when Leo and Mangano were both out of prison, before Leo was indicted in 2007.

In January 2005, Dominick Cirillo, Larry Dentico, and Mario Gigante were reported by Capeci to be on the ruling panel.

Cirillo was indicted as acting boss in April 2005. Matthew Ianniello was an acting boss in July 2005. The feds later said Danny Leo (who had been on the ruling panel) became acting boss in 2005 so it may have been after that. Capeci wrote about Leo being the acting boss in November 2006 and he was indicted as such in May 2007.

In June 2009, an article identified Benny Mangano, Ernie Muscarella, Barney Bellomo, and Larry Dentico as being on a "rotating panel" of recently released senior members running the family.

Anyway, it would seem there has been a ruling panel in place since the time Cirillo created it not long after he became acting boss in 1997 until at least 2009 when another article said Tino Fiumara had been on a 3-man panel. It probably went on for longer than that, at least until Bellomo took over as official boss.

If i was to guess, id say the panel prob consisting of Benny mangano, fiumara, and danny leo had been runnin the genoveses until barney got outta prison and was off supervised release.