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yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:04 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:37 pm For years people who want so much to pretend like almost everything they know about the mob isn't dependant on the feds would go to the "feds thinking Fat Tony is boss" example as a reason to disagree with them whenever they feel like it. Nevermind it was the exception that proved the rule.

Is an FBI agent labeling Merlino a Genovese captain going to be the new Fat Tony card?
If you believe Tough Tony is a capo, then where is the indictment? That's what you base your entire views on right?
I'm not sure, given this new article, but I still lean toward Romanello being the captain of that crew now.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
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yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:05 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
HAHAHA so ironic
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yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:05 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
Sure, you weren't pissed off and looking to insult me, you were just throwing round random Good fella quotes. I understand ;)
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Re: Article mentioning Tony Parkside

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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:00 pm
yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:05 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
Sure, you weren't pissed off and looking to insult me, you were just throwing round random Good fella quotes. I understand ;)
Glad you're finally catching on Shekelstein.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:00 pm
yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:05 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
Sure, you weren't pissed off and looking to insult me, you were just throwing round random Good fella quotes. I understand ;)
Did you just get bitch slapped? I think you did 😉😘
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No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
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UTC wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 pm No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
The FBI is actually well known for vetting it's info very well, especially compared to state law enforcement. For example, to consider someone made, the FBI requires that they be independently identified as such by two other members.
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Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:24 pm
UTC wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 pm No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
The FBI is actually well known for vetting it's info very well, especially compared to state law enforcement. For example, to consider someone made, the FBI requires that they be independently identified as such by two other members.
In addition, The Feds get information from Surveillance and Eaves Dropping Tapes. It's not ONLY from Informants. The Feds basically convicted John Gotti because of Tapes that Gravano only supported with his Testimony. Gotti basically convicted himself as one example. Gravano just filled in some of the missing details.
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Hamlet Peralta also scammed a top police official out of even more money than he took from Federici.


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UTC wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 pm No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
You're head and shoulders above the rest UTC.
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Confederate wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:31 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:24 pm
UTC wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 pm No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
The FBI is actually well known for vetting it's info very well, especially compared to state law enforcement. For example, to consider someone made, the FBI requires that they be independently identified as such by two other members.
In addition, The Feds get information from Surveillance and Eaves Dropping Tapes. It's not ONLY from Informants. The Feds basically convicted John Gotti because of Tapes that Gravano only supported with his Testimony. Gotti basically convicted himself as one example. Gravano just filled in some of the missing details.
You're upside down on your opinion. Feds had the Decav tapes way back in the 60s. Couldn't convict based on these. Had Ruggiero, Gotti, dellacroce tapes in mid 80s also. Couldnt convict. Only when a wiseguy informs or testifies can they convict. Think about that a day or two.
NickyEyes1 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:40 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:00 pm
yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:05 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:16 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:02 pm Team America over here. Ya know Sonny, you're a real fucking mutt!
Yates. Shhhh. Quiet time now.
Stop throwing a tantrum because you said something fucking stupid and got corrected for it.
Smarten up. It's a Goodfellas quote
Sure, you weren't pissed off and looking to insult me, you were just throwing round random Good fella quotes. I understand ;)
Did you just get bitch slapped? I think you did 😉😘
Yeah Nicky. I did. You're right. Very intelligent post. Anything relevant info to add or is your co-signing bandwagon "jump-on-other-guys-dicks" post complete?
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Re: Article mentioning Tony Parkside

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Wiseguy wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:09 am
yatescj7781 wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:04 pm
Wiseguy wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:37 pm For years people who want so much to pretend like almost everything they know about the mob isn't dependant on the feds would go to the "feds thinking Fat Tony is boss" example as a reason to disagree with them whenever they feel like it. Nevermind it was the exception that proved the rule.

Is an FBI agent labeling Merlino a Genovese captain going to be the new Fat Tony card?
If you believe Tough Tony is a capo, then where is the indictment? That's what you base your entire views on right?
I'm not sure, given this new article, but I still lean toward Romanello being the captain of that crew now.
I'm confused now. You've always based your opinion on Federal indictments. Now you're basing it on media articles?
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yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:40 pm
UTC wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:02 pm No doubt the feds possess most of the info about the mob but if that mostly comes from informants, as stated here, what does that say about the accuracy of that body of information, given the self-service nature of its origin? Also, if the feds say something that we think is clearly inaccurate because of other info we got from the same party, where does that leave us? Also, how do we know that an inaccurate statement was made mistakenly?
You're head and shoulders above the rest UTC.
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yatescj7781 wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:40 pm If people start agreeing with me, I'll know I've become a conformist little cuck and kill myself.
Also, UTC, when the feds make a case, it is usually not just one dodgy informer on the stand. If it was just one turncoat, there's a big risk of self-serving, lying, making up facts to get himself off scot-free. But when you've got three, four, or a dozen turncoats on the stand, all who have a story that corroborates with eachother, then you've got a decent case. Couple that with wiretap, bugging, and physical surveillance.
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Just food for thought, imo
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