Patriarca Family Succession

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The last reputable source had him as a caporegime in 2014. Different blogs claim he became the underboss or consigliere in 2015 or 2016, but they don't give any sources.
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I'd like to attempt Pueblo/Denver, then Buffalo next.

Antiliar, is St. Louis doable? How far back can we go?

Detroit is gone, unless Scott still has it. can someone pm his email, I'll contact him about it.
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Antiliar wrote:The last reputable source had him as a caporegime in 2014. Different blogs claim he became the underboss or consigliere in 2015 or 2016, but they don't give any sources.

Yeah he was indicted as a Capo in 2005, went to prison for several years and was released in 2014. Who knows if he even kept his Capo rank during his time in prison.


Also Christie, minor correction but Grasso was part of the Connecticut Crew/Faction.


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Pogo The Clown wrote:
Antiliar wrote:The last reputable source had him as a caporegime in 2014. Different blogs claim he became the underboss or consigliere in 2015 or 2016, but they don't give any sources.

Yeah he was indicted as a Capo in 2005, went to prison for several years and was released in 2014. Who knows if he even kept his Capo rank during his time in prison.


Also Christie, minor correction but Grasso was part of the Connecticut Crew/Faction.


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CT didn't fall in with Providence? There was a 3rd faction? I don't know hardly anything about this family.

Also, favor: can you go to the bottom of the Gambino chart and let me know if it's accurate? I'm seeing stuff now saying that Cefalu is no longer boss? This is something I know absolutely nothing about and the chart doesn't reflect any changes. https://s29.postimg.org/7572isug5/GAMBINOlineage.gif
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Grasso was also "The Wild Guy" not "Wild Man".
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Chris Christie wrote:CT didn't fall in with Providence?

No you're right. They weren't a seperate faction.

Chris Christie wrote:I'm seeing stuff now saying that Cefalu is no longer boss?

It came out that Peter Gotti never stepped down as Boss. Cefalu stepped down as Acting Boss in 2015.


So it is


Peter Gotti-2001-Present)
-Dom Cefalu (2011-2015) Stepped Down.
Frank Cali (2015-Present)
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Chris Christie wrote:It's nearly complete. I need a photo of Rocco Argenti (if available) and it's done.

As far as Gugliemetti goes, I'll wait and see what Pogo has to say.
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Pogo The Clown wrote:
Chris Christie wrote:CT didn't fall in with Providence?

No you're right. They weren't a seperate faction.

Chris Christie wrote:I'm seeing stuff now saying that Cefalu is no longer boss?

It came out that Peter Gotti never stepped down as Boss. Cefalu stepped down as Acting Boss in 2015.


So it is


Peter Gotti-2001-Present)
-Dom Cefalu (2011-2015) Stepped Down.
Frank Cali (2015-Present)
John gambino ??
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Chris Christie wrote:I'd like to attempt Pueblo/Denver, then Buffalo next.

Antiliar, is St. Louis doable? How far back can we go?

Detroit is gone, unless Scott still has it. can someone pm his email, I'll contact him about it.
St. Louis is probably one of the oldest Families but the info before the 1940s is very confused. Some people think there were separate Families operating in the 1920s, but I think it's more likely they were crews. I also don't have photos of most of them.

An early boss may have been Antonino Triolo. He appeared on a 1910 passenger manifest with Toto D'Aquila. He was born in 1860 and first arrived from Borgetto in 1906. Appears to have moved back to Italy.

What they have in Wikipedia for the bosses may be correct:


1912-1923 — Dominick Giambrone — fled; murdered, 1934.[10]
1923-1927 — Vito Giannola[2][11]
1927-1937 — Frank Agrusa[12] Born in Cinisi, Sicily, Italy.
1937-1943 — Thomas Buffa[13]
1943-1950 — Pasquale Miceli
1950 — Vincent Chiapetta[14]
1950-1960 — Anthony "Tony Lap" Lopiparo — was the son of a St. Louis mobster, he died in 1960.[3]
1960-1980 — Anthony "Tony G." Giordano — as boss he declared independence from the Kansas City family.[1] Imprisoned 1975-1977, he died on August 29, 1980 from cancer[3][15]
Acting 1975-1977 — Vincenzo "Jimmy" Giammanco — was Giordano's nephew[1]
1980-1982 — John "Johnny V." Vitale. — he died on June 5, 1982[3]
1982-1997 — Matthew "Mike" Trupiano, Jr. — was Giordano's nephew from Detroit; he died in 1997[1]
1997–2014 — Anthony "Nino" Parrino[4] died November 3, 2014.
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I started a new thread on St Louie. viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2292
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Is Jackie Salemme in prison?
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Jackie Salemme is not currently in prison. The last I heard he was in poor health, do not know specifics.
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This family needs to open the books or its life span is short . Thede was plenty of guys 10-15 yrs ago who wanted a button in places like easite and revere and they were passed over .now the family hAs what 5-6 guys under 50 ?? Some1 better reorganize and start recruiting or its gonna be over in the next 10 years .
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Eddie mush wrote:This family needs to open the books or its life span is short . Thede was plenty of guys 10-15 yrs ago who wanted a button in places like easite and revere and they were passed over .now the family hAs what 5-6 guys under 50 ?? Some1 better reorganize and start recruiting or its gonna be over in the next 10 years .
Remnants will always remain for the years to come but the structure of New England LCN is over as we once knew it. Which family outside of NYC has "successfully" replenished and rebuilt their crime organization. You could make an argument for Philly but I consider Philly more of a local gang than a powerful organization.
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JCB1977 wrote:
Eddie mush wrote:This family needs to open the books or its life span is short . Thede was plenty of guys 10-15 yrs ago who wanted a button in places like easite and revere and they were passed over .now the family hAs what 5-6 guys under 50 ?? Some1 better reorganize and start recruiting or its gonna be over in the next 10 years .
Remnants will always remain for the years to come but the structure of New England LCN is over as we once knew it. Which family outside of NYC has "successfully" replenished and rebuilt their crime organization. You could make an argument for Philly but I consider Philly more of a local gang than a powerful organization.
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