B. wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 10:46 am
If they really did transfer him to another Family within New York it would be the first time this is known to have happened since possibly Jake Columbo in the 1950s and we don't have many other examples even before that.
Anthony Persiano transferred from the Lucchese family to Philly and if I recall correctly Robert Vaccaro was also made into the Lucchese family but transferred to the Gambino’s.
Persiano's Lucchese induction was apparently invalidated which is why he was re-inducted opposed to transferred.
I'm not familiar w/ the Vaccaro story. Where does that come from?
If I’m not mistaken Vaccqro was a Lucchese Associate who transferred and was made in the Gambinos in the late 1990s/early 2000s.
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Waingro wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 7:48 pm
I didn't know Anthony Guzzo's background that was surprising to read because I thought John Pennisi always talked about how Anthony isn't a tough guy.
I don't remember him saying that about him. But he talked about him lying a lot.
Waingro wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 7:48 pm
I didn't know Anthony Guzzo's background that was surprising to read because I thought John Pennisi always talked about how Anthony isn't a tough guy.
I don't remember him saying that about him. But he talked about him lying a lot.
Well he has that in common with scott.
Heard "super capo" Gene Gotti is trying to get Vito to clip Dom then he will make Vito underboss when Gene takes over. Perhaps when Dom is out for a steak dinner?
Anyway a wiseguy trigger happy and that made 28 years in prison without flip is very rare today.So Vito deserve to be made in a better family than the Colombos.
You know Gunner Bernstein is delusional?? Right ??? Listen I'll be doing a live on my show 52 topics and I'm gonna debunk this fraud once and for all!! Think about it a Bronx faction whose on top wants to recruit a queens powerhouse with unlimited connections to their realm??? So he can regroup??? And start a war ( that's if he is still that guy? ) Bernstein go take a shit you sound dum.
OcSleeper wrote: ↑Mon May 05, 2025 9:04 pm
And wasn't Persiano one of the guys made into Scarfo illegitimate Philly family, not the Luccheses?
That's my interpretation of it too. An unrecognised branch of the Philly family that still looked to Scarfo as the boss. On the Nick Stefanelli tapes, Scoops Licata and Lou Fazzini also speak about how Scarfo Jr tried to recruit Joey Grande by offering to make him a captain under his father. Fazzini goes on to explicitly state that they weren't referring to making Grande a captain with the Luccheses. It's clear they were trying to form their own version of the Philly family.
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Ridgewood 79 wrote: ↑Tue May 06, 2025 12:10 am
You know Gunner Bernstein is delusional?? Right ??? Listen I'll be doing a live on my show 52 topics and I'm gonna debunk this fraud once and for all!! Think about it a Bronx faction whose on top wants to recruit a queens powerhouse with unlimited connections to their realm??? So he can regroup??? And start a war ( that's if he is still that guy? ) Bernstein go take a shit you sound dum.
I’m probably in the minority here but I don’t have hard time believing this story could at least partially be true.
Mancuso and Bonnano Bronx faction have history of being aggressive, murders etc. Vito Guzzo would fit the mold there.. if there is a claim to be made that Guzzo making ceremony is invalid I could see Mancuso or other families trying to make a claim for him... who knows..