General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[Aunt+Baby]

I still see it but it will be taken down soon bc after 24 hours it is.

Wow, good eye. I can't get that to come up wherever it is. I'm probably just looking in the wrong places (not much of a Facebook guy).

Thanks for taking the time to screencap that.

I wonder if he goes to that "steak and cigars" thing they advertise on there, he's a big cigar guy: https://www.facebook.com/reel/1200215797711783

He used to hang out at one of the Bastone kids’ cigar shoppe in Forest Park, but I believe some heat between the two materialized. Not sure if the shoppe is still there

[NorthBuffalo]

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

[Ivan]

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?

[Patrickgold]

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?

I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago

[NorthBuffalo]

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?

I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago

Here is where I got that - some of the older posts here on GangsterBB are somewhat informative. Did Pudgy's son really go to West Point? http://gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthread ... ber=785662

[Patrickgold]

Taverna on Division is owned by John Matassa's son.

That Greg Vayna guy in the cigar video I linked to is listed as the owner. Does Matassa's son also own a share, or is he himself Matassa's son but uses a different last name for some reason, or what?

I think he sold it to the current guy. There has been two different owners of Taverna. The current bought it a couple of years ago

Here is where I got that - some of the older posts here on GangsterBB are somewhat informative. Did Pudgy's son really go to West Point? http://gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthread ... ber=785662

Yes he sold it. No idea about the West Point connection but will try to find out

[NorthBuffalo]

I have a close contact who remains friendly with Pudgy - he had told me there was another pizza place he operates (Jonny & Tonys) in Elmhurst, IL. Clearly, Pudgy has income well beyond that janky union scheme he pulled a few years ago.

[Coloboy]

I know this has been discussed before, but does anyone have additional information/thoughts on why Jimmy Marcello is locked up in supermax? It always seemed like overkill for an LCN guy to be housed with the Unabomber and El Chapo, but I'm sure there is more to the story than I know.

The two things I recall reading were that he was either trying to run the outfit or criminal rackets from prison, or that it was basically a middle finger from the feds due to his multiple appeal attempts. Dude is 81 years old, and spends 23 hours a day in a tiny cell with a 4 inch window.

[Pogo The Clown]

Marcelo has killed a hell of lot more people than the Unabomber.


Pogo

[RushStreet]

Paulie is about 55 years old now and its nice to see that he doesn't let age slow him down or act like so many do once they get to the same age. There are so many people once they are in their 50's that feel that going out is against the rules for them anymore. Which I find quite disappointing to carry that attitude in life. Good for him!

[Coloboy]

Marcelo has killed a hell of lot more people than the Unabomber.


Pogo

Likely true.

Reading about the prisoner conditions at ADMAX is wild. From what i can tell, it's also not supposed to be a super long term solution, and he's been there a long ass time. There has to be more to this story than we know (He plotted to murder a judge, plotted to murder another inmate, explicitly ordered Zizzos death from prison??). Although if something that explicit went down, you would think it would have been publicized. This feels like insider baseball shit, like he or his lawyers really pissed off someone important behind the scenes.

[Snakes]

Marcelo has killed a hell of lot more people than the Unabomber.


Pogo

Likely true.

Reading about the prisoner conditions at ADMAX is wild. From what i can tell, it's also not supposed to be a super long term solution, and he's been there a long ass time. There has to be more to this story than we know (He plotted to murder a judge, plotted to murder another inmate, explicitly ordered Zizzos death from prison??). Although if something that explicit went down, you would think it would have been publicized. This feels like insider baseball shit, like he or his lawyers really pissed off someone important behind the scenes.

I'm working through court filings, but I know in 2012, he was ordered by Zagel to be returned to his "preferred institution." The federal government has discretion to put him wherever they want but they try to place them somewhere relatively close to family and counsel, I think 500 miles or less Chicago. Atwater wasn't even within the parameters, so I'm unsure why he is in Admax or why he is there. If I find anything, I'll share here.

[RushStreet]

Even Vinnie Basciano was moved out of ADMAX, and I'd put him as a more dangerous individual than Marcello.

[NorthBuffalo]

Very informative on Admax - he's asked if he knew Lombardo or Marcello and thought they were not there any more - however Marcello is still listed as being in there: https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1 ... on_ask_me/

[Patrickgold]

I have a close contact who remains friendly with Pudgy - he had told me there was another pizza place he operates (Jonny & Tonys) in Elmhurst, IL. Clearly, Pudgy has income well beyond that janky union scheme he pulled a few years ago.

That place closed down like 5 years ago and the place that took its place also closed down. There was also a John and Tony’s in West Chicago that also closed down. Not sure of any other places they are involved in. I do believe Matassa is well off and that sceme he was involved in was just him stealing because he could.