Gangland January 16th 2025

[johnny_scootch]

It's entirely possible that the Sicilian faction is allowing someone from the other faction have a leadership position, but only someone who is older and who will fall in line and not make any waves. A compromise of sorts, to give the other side the illusion of having any power.

Yes 100% that’s why they had Mickey Boy in that spot previously to give the American guys not an illusion of power but rather a voice in the Admin someone from their side that would go to bat for them if they needed it. He’s a bridge between the factions of the family but don’t get it twisted these guys (Paradiso, Vallario) aren’t stooges they’re dyed in the wool gangsters and know how to play the game.

[SonnyBlackstein]

It's entirely possible that the Sicilian faction is allowing someone from the other faction have a leadership position, but only someone who is older and who will fall in line and not make any waves. A compromise of sorts, to give the other side the illusion of having any power.

Yes 100% that’s why they had Mickey Boy in that spot previously to give the American guys not an illusion of power but rather a voice in the Admin someone from their side that would go to bat for them if they needed it. He’s a bridge between the factions of the family but don’t get it twisted these guys (Paradiso, Vallario) aren’t stooges they’re dyed in the wool gangsters and know how to play the game.

Excellent post.

Keep your enemies close sorta thing (sorta, you know what I mean)

[SonnyBlackstein]

In my humble opinion, this is bullshit.

Likey a ruse by the Gambino's baiting Capeci after Scott divulged the true hierarchy.

And Jerry fell for it. Hook line sinker.

bruh some dumbass of the year quote right there. We are only 3 weeks in to the year and you are pumping out hits.

Hear ya bruh.

[OmarSantista]

It's entirely possible that the Sicilian faction is allowing someone from the other faction have a leadership position, but only someone who is older and who will fall in line and not make any waves. A compromise of sorts, to give the other side the illusion of having any power.

Yes 100% that’s why they had Mickey Boy in that spot previously to give the American guys not an illusion of power but rather a voice in the Admin someone from their side that would go to bat for them if they needed it. He’s a bridge between the factions of the family but don’t get it twisted these guys (Paradiso, Vallario) aren’t stooges they’re dyed in the wool gangsters and know how to play the game.

Excellent post.

Keep your enemies close sorta thing (sorta, you know what I mean)

This conversation reminded me of how B would often state how the consigliere was typically a representative of a faction of the borgata. Below, I copy and pasted an example of this from forum member quadtree. Personally I think keeping their enemies closer was something cosa nostra learned long ago which is why that policy was implemented for admin members; who knows how long ago. Here's a link to the that discussion

viewtopic.php?p=279654#p279654

Antonino Conte was Anastasia's underboss, but he could represent another faction as part of the policy of representing both factions in the administration. At least since the end of the Castellamarese War, both factions were necessarily represented in the administration. If the boss was a representative of one, then the underboss was a representative of the other, here are examples:
1. Vincent Mangano (boss, faction?), Albert Anastasia (underboss, Rava faction), Giuseppe Biondo (consigliere, Scalici faction);
2. Albert Anastasia (boss, Rava faction) / Frank Scalici (underboss and/or consigliere, Scalici faction);
3. Albert Anastasia (boss, Rava faction) / Carlo Gambino (consigliere, Scalici faction);
4. Carlo Gambino (boss, Scalici faction), Aniello Dellacroce (underboss, Rava faction);
5. Paul Castellano (boss, Scalici faction), Aniello Dellacroce (underboss, Rava faction);
And it worked even later:
6. John Gotti (boss, Rava faction), Gotti clearly recognized the continuity with this faction, for example, a portrait of Albert Anastasia hung in Ravenita, Joseph Armone (consigliere and underboss, Scalici faction);

The exception to the rule was the era of 1960-1964, when there was not a single representative of the Rava faction in the administration, but this is explained by the fact that the core of this faction was first rebellious, and then, using analogies, was at the stage of “Reconstruction”.

[johnny_scootch]

Should say Anastasia faction rather than Rava faction but still interesting to see it laid out like that.