Snakes do you know who Robert Redford is then? From what I gathered, that was Panozzo - a good source told me Vena was called 'tall / handsome guy' bc he's short and ugly. Perhaps they were switched.Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:34 pmIn court -- Mandell asked Petitt "Is that club spoken for?"NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:00 amWhere did it come out that Mandell was in touch with Larry Pettit? Was that in a court transcript? I'm just guessing Pacente is 'Freddie' given they are talking about major strip clubs in that regard and they are both former cops and from the same neighborhood.Snakes wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 6:48 amI haven't seen anything concerning who "Freddie" isNorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:10 pm Snakes - Looks like I'm off here. Did it come out in the trial that Petitt was in contact with Mandell? As it relates to Grand and Harlem I think they are at one point referencing Fred Pacente, who was affiliated with Crazy Horse in Vegas among others in Miami and Chicago.
13 MICHAEL: That Grand and Harlem has been brought up to me
14 on numerous occasions by What’s Up Buddy.
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16 MANDELL: Well, who’s What’s Up Buddy?
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18 MICHAEL: You know who I’m talking about.
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20 MANDELL: What’s Up Buddy? Handsome?
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22 MICHAEL: (Inaudible). No. Your old—
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24 MANDELL: Not Robert Redford?
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26 MICHAEL: No, your old old friend Freddie.
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28 MANDELL: Oh really?
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30 MICHAEL: Really.
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32 MANDELL: The guy that had the big business, that couldn’t
33 handle it. That, that guy?
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35 (Simultaneous conversation).
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37 MICHAEL: Yeah went down—
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39 MANDELL: Who had the business?
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41 MICHAEL: Yeah, it went down the toilet. Yeah.
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43 MANDELL: And he—It was, uh, it was handed to him on a
44 silver platter and he couldn’t even handle it,
45 right? That guy?
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47 MICHAEL: For free. For free. For free.
Regarding Pacente, he had a club in Miami that went belly up and that was essentially the last of his mob career - I have his book. I would assume that is what Mandell is talking about and given Mandell and Pacente were around Hanhart in the CPD and the Outfit, I can imagine they knew each other well.