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sstop w this crew shit. People meet each under in Federal Prison. than they may pull a scam in conjunction with the guy in KC or whereever. the made guy that goes to try and execute plan in KC for instance brings five asssociates who probably have nothing better to do. there is yyour crew.
johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:24 pm We know Agnello is there and he's an earner. He caught that case in 2015 for the stolen cars and money laundering out of his scrap yards so he's making money and probably has a few guys around him. Is he shelved like Aray is saying? I don't know but he separated himself from the Gotti family many years ago so maybe not. I don't see it being out of the realm of possibility that he's sending some $$$ back to NY.
AmenCornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:07 amsstop w this crew shit. People meet each under in Federal Prison. than they may pull a scam in conjunction with the guy in KC or whereever. the made guy that goes to try and execute plan in KC for instance brings five asssociates who probably have nothing better to do. there is yyour crew.
everything is so loose, ppl become aacting captains all the time
That was many moons ago, but I believe you're correct..lol.Ivan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:38 pmThanks, but I think that was Stroccos, not me?Doobeez wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:54 pmIvan I believe we had a convo or two on here quite a few years ago about Agnello and the horse doping/race fixing allegations.
Hope you're doing well.
I didn't start this "crew shit," Scott did. And even we play fast and loose with definitions, there's still little to no evidence for any of it. The Outfit's presence within its last bastion in the Chicago suburbs is growing thin but it's back "planting flags in NW Indiana?" It's the same principle with the Gambinos not even having a crew in New Jersey at this point but setting up shop in Cleveland. God forbid we be expected to use some deductive reasoning.Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:24 amAmenCornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:07 amsstop w this crew shit. People meet each under in Federal Prison. than they may pull a scam in conjunction with the guy in KC or whereever. the made guy that goes to try and execute plan in KC for instance brings five asssociates who probably have nothing better to do. there is yyour crew.
everything is so loose, ppl become aacting captains all the time
How is it known there is no Gambino crew in Jersey? Hasnt it been established that whats left of the Decalvacantes are a Gambino crew?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:16 amI didn't start this "crew shit," Scott did. And even we play fast and loose with definitions, there's still little to no evidence for any of it. The Outfit's presence within its last bastion in the Chicago suburbs is growing thin but it's back "planting flags in NW Indiana?" It's the same principle with the Gambinos not even having a crew in New Jersey at this point but setting up shop in Cleveland. God forbid we be expected to use some deductive reasoning.Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:24 amAmenCornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:07 amsstop w this crew shit. People meet each under in Federal Prison. than they may pull a scam in conjunction with the guy in KC or whereever. the made guy that goes to try and execute plan in KC for instance brings five asssociates who probably have nothing better to do. there is yyour crew.
everything is so loose, ppl become aacting captains all the time
Because the crew that used to be based in New Jersey dried up a long time ago. Very few Gambino members live in the state. No identified captain in years. In 2008, the ranking Gambino member in the state was identified as Andrew Merola - a soldier. Other known members, like Vincent DiModica and Nicholas Mitarotonda, are old even by mob standards and appear to be long inactive. One of the last Gambino cases in the state in 2012 involved a New York crew with virtually all New York guys.
No. They are associated with the Gambinos but they're are still their own family.Hasnt it been established that whats left of the Decalvacantes are a Gambino crew?
So if another bust never happens in Jersey that means there was never a Gambino crew operating there?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:52 pmBecause the crew that used to be based in New Jersey dried up a long time ago. Very few Gambino members live in the state. No identified captain in years. In 2008, the ranking Gambino member in the state was identified as Andrew Merola - a soldier. Other known members, like Vincent DiModica and Nicholas Mitarotonda, are old even by mob standards and appear to be long inactive. One of the last Gambino cases in the state in 2012 involved a New York crew with virtually all New York guys.
No. They are associated with the Gambinos but they're are still their own family.Hasnt it been established that whats left of the Decalvacantes are a Gambino crew?
Don't read this as a claim that Chicago has anything going on now in IN (I'm agnostic, in that I honestly wouldn't know), but NW Indiana *is* the "Chicago suburbs", it's just the part of Chicagoland on the IN side of the border. Lake County, IN, is literally across the street (State Line Ave) from the City of Chicago, it's not some far-flung remote place.Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:16 amI didn't start this "crew shit," Scott did. And even we play fast and loose with definitions, there's still little to no evidence for any of it. The Outfit's presence within its last bastion in the Chicago suburbs is growing thin but it's back "planting flags in NW Indiana?" It's the same principle with the Gambinos not even having a crew in New Jersey at this point but setting up shop in Cleveland. God forbid we be expected to use some deductive reasoning.Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:24 amAmenCornerBoy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 4:07 amsstop w this crew shit. People meet each under in Federal Prison. than they may pull a scam in conjunction with the guy in KC or whereever. the made guy that goes to try and execute plan in KC for instance brings five asssociates who probably have nothing better to do. there is yyour crew.
everything is so loose, ppl become aacting captains all the time
Yeah... Hammond and Gary, Indiana, the big towns that are the urban cores of what's generally termed "Northwest Indiana", are about as far from the Chicago city limits as Outfit hotspots Cicero and Addison, respectively. Right? They're not way out in the endless cornfield nothingness that people usually associate with Indiana.PolackTony wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:00 pm Don't read this as a claim that Chicago has anything going on now in IN (I'm agnostic, in that I honestly wouldn't know), but NW Indiana *is* the "Chicago suburbs", it's just the part of Chicagoland on the IN side of the border. Lake County, IN, is literally across the street (State Line Ave) from the City of Chicago, it's not some far-flung remote place.
Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:52 pmBecause the crew that used to be based in New Jersey dried up a long time ago. Very few Gambino members live in the state. No identified captain in years. In 2008, the ranking Gambino member in the state was identified as Andrew Merola - a soldier. Other known members, like Vincent DiModica and Nicholas Mitarotonda, are old even by mob standards and appear to be long inactive. One of the last Gambino cases in the state in 2012 involved a New York crew with virtually all New York guys.
No. They are associated with the Gambinos but they're are still their own family.Hasnt it been established that whats left of the Decalvacantes are a Gambino crew?
The cop who infiltrated Charlie stango was (obviously) working in Jersey and spoke about dealings with one gambino in particular. Whether he was part of a Jersey gambino crew or just a Brooklyn member who lived in Jersey was unclear and likely the latter. I would be shocked though if they didn’t have a presence in jersey, too many people from Brooklyn live there. Just the other day Mikey scars said “everyone” from his neighborhood lives in jersey now. He funnily enough mentioned freehold which is where tantillo the gambino arrested recently livesWiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:52 pmBecause the crew that used to be based in New Jersey dried up a long time ago. Very few Gambino members live in the state. No identified captain in years. In 2008, the ranking Gambino member in the state was identified as Andrew Merola - a soldier. Other known members, like Vincent DiModica and Nicholas Mitarotonda, are old even by mob standards and appear to be long inactive. One of the last Gambino cases in the state in 2012 involved a New York crew with virtually all New York guys.
No. They are associated with the Gambinos but they're are still their own family.Hasnt it been established that whats left of the Decalvacantes are a Gambino crew?
Correct. It’s just part of the Chicago metro area but on the other side of the state line. You can get from, say, Melrose Park to Gary faster than I can from my home in the Bronx to Brooklyn. I know a bunch of people from Chicago who have moved to IN (East Chicago, etc. — it’s a draw because of cheaper housing costs and lower taxes). It’s no different than people living in NJ and commuting to work in NYC (NW IN also has commuter rail service to the Loop, so you don’t have to drive either).Ivan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:57 pmYeah... Hammond and Gary, Indiana, the big towns that are the urban cores of what's generally termed "Northwest Indiana", are about as far from the Chicago city limits as Outfit hotspots Cicero and Addison, respectively. Right? They're not way out in the endless cornfield nothingness that people usually associate with Indiana.PolackTony wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:00 pm Don't read this as a claim that Chicago has anything going on now in IN (I'm agnostic, in that I honestly wouldn't know), but NW Indiana *is* the "Chicago suburbs", it's just the part of Chicagoland on the IN side of the border. Lake County, IN, is literally across the street (State Line Ave) from the City of Chicago, it's not some far-flung remote place.
I mean it's possible for a person to stand in Hammond and Chicago at the same time.
That fact has been established by what has occurred (or not occurred) already. A bust involving a Gambino crew not happening ever again in the future would only be more confirmation of what should already be obvious.Newyorkempire wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 12:55 pmSo if another bust never happens in Jersey that means there was never a Gambino crew operating there?
In terms of a modern-day Outfit footprint, I'm talking the usual - Cicero, Melrose Park, Elmwood Park, etc. Like 15-20 miles outside downtown Chicago. Chicago Heights hasn't been a thing for what, 30 years? But we're back planting flags in Gary in the 2020s? Might as well be the moon at this point.PolackTony wrote: ↑Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:00 pmDon't read this as a claim that Chicago has anything going on now in IN (I'm agnostic, in that I honestly wouldn't know), but NW Indiana *is* the "Chicago suburbs", it's just the part of Chicagoland on the IN side of the border. Lake County, IN, is literally across the street (State Line Ave) from the City of Chicago, it's not some far-flung remote place.
