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Antiliar any plans to talk to your source any time soon? I just went through the old posts searching for "Antiliar" and "source" and man that stuff was pure forum gold.
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Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
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Ivan wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:04 am Scott article up now where his sources are telling him interesting things about Sarno still having some sway, especially over Cicero guys he brought in during his few years at the top. Didn't Antiliar's source tell him that Sarno made "a bunch of lowlifes" or something?
FWIW, it was confirmed that Greg Paloain, the bookie, was sending Sarno money regularly in the last 5 or so years before Paolians death. Whether that is because Sarno still retains some official position in the outfit or whether it was just because he was partnered with Paolian in the enterprise is impossible to know.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
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Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
Presumably the father, as the travel agency was evidently an asset of the Family used for travel arrangements etc for members.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
Presumably the father, as the travel agency was evidently an asset of the Family used for travel arrangements etc for members.
Ah, I was curious as the son was listed in 1999/2000 as an associate.
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Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:45 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
Presumably the father, as the travel agency was evidently an asset of the Family used for travel arrangements etc for members.
Ah, I was curious as the son was listed in 1999/2000 as an associate.
Was it the son or the father in ‘99, since Nick Sr died in 2002?
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Ivan wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:32 am Antiliar any plans to talk to your source any time soon? I just went through the old posts searching for "Antiliar" and "source" and man that stuff was pure forum gold.
Glad you liked it. Nothing new to report on. If something comes up I'll write on it here.
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PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:45 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
Presumably the father, as the travel agency was evidently an asset of the Family used for travel arrangements etc for members.
Ah, I was curious as the son was listed in 1999/2000 as an associate.
Was it the son or the father in ‘99, since Nick Sr died in 2002?
The son; DOB of 1944
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Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:41 pm
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:52 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:45 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:16 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 am
Snakes wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:37 am I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
Wrong Nick. That’s Nick Jr. His father, Nick Sr, who died in 2002, was the one who founded the travel agency (the grandfather was Nicola Nitti, hence all the Nicks in the family). Nick Jr’s brother John also worked at the travel agency and was involved in the 1990 scandal at Triton College as well.
Cosmik_Debris wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:45 am He was partners with Tony Accardo Jr. in the travel agency, IIRC.
Correct on Accardo’s son.
Ah, okay -- I wonder if the son was listed on the 1983 CCC chart or the father.
Presumably the father, as the travel agency was evidently an asset of the Family used for travel arrangements etc for members.
Ah, I was curious as the son was listed in 1999/2000 as an associate.
Was it the son or the father in ‘99, since Nick Sr died in 2002?
The son; DOB of 1944
Ah, interesting. Thanks for noting this.

It’s difficult sometimes to 100% delineate the precise genealogy of current people, but as stated above believe that Nick the son is the father of Jason Nitti and was married to Rose Cerone, a cousin of the other Cerones.
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Is Anthony Marano Co the company that Louis 'Tomatoes' Marino had a job and car with? It's interesting these companies in Chicago that continue to be involved with the mob for decades.
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NorthBuffalo wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:37 pm Is Anthony Marano Co the company that Louis 'Tomatoes' Marino had a job and car with? It's interesting these companies in Chicago that continue to be involved with the mob for decades.
Correct, hence “Louie Tomatoes”.

The Maranos (who were originally from Monreale) are one of these longtime Palermitano-Chicago produce wholesaling families. Jason Nitti is himself descended from another such family, the Catanias from Tèrmini Imerese.

The Nittis in Chicago also have relatives back in Triggiano, Bari, involved in olive oil and other agricultural production. Isola Foods in Chicago was founded by Giovanni Nitti, one of the later Nitti cousins who immigrated during the “second wave” of Italian arrivals to the US.
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Fellas I need a springboard for future research: I am trying to look into the rumored hits after Zizzo. Was inspired by Antiliar's superb posts relating what his source told him. This is what I have:

Tony Catalano
Norberto Velez
Mike DeFillipis
Bobby English (don't steal a truck from that "break every fucking bone in your body" guy's crew, kids)

Are there others? I'm even looking for hits that are tangentially Outfit; i.e., killings that are part of the miasma of violence around the Outfit but weren't necessarily "hits" ordered to further organized crime purposes, hits that are collateral damage of these guys being violent in general. Outfit equivalents of Tommy killing Spider. :lol:

I can vaguely remember some others. A bartender and a girl that was with him? Mandell killing someone? Some black gangbanger very recently? Argh can't remember and can't find with search.

Good Scott overview of the first three here for those who have a GR account: https://gangsterreport.com/to-live-die- ... e-sources/
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Ivan wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:34 pm Fellas I need a springboard for future research: I am trying to look into the rumored hits after Zizzo. Was inspired by Antiliar's superb posts relating what his source told him. This is what I have:

Tony Catalano
Norberto Velez
Mike DeFillipis
Bobby English (don't steal a truck from that "break every fucking bone in your body" guy's crew, kids)

Are there others? I'm even looking for hits that are tangentially Outfit; i.e., killings that are part of the miasma of violence around the Outfit but weren't necessarily "hits" ordered to further organized crime purposes, hits that are collateral damage of these guys being violent in general. Outfit equivalents of Tommy killing Spider. :lol:

I can vaguely remember some others. A bartender and a girl that was with him? Mandell killing someone? Some black gangbanger very recently? Argh can't remember and can't find with search.

Good Scott overview of the first three here for those who have a GR account: https://gangsterreport.com/to-live-die- ... e-sources/
I think there was one Chucky Russell talked about on a wire that they left in the South Side in a black neighborhood, with the thought that they wouldn't be suspected.
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Ivan wrote: Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:34 pm Fellas I need a springboard for future research: I am trying to look into the rumored hits after Zizzo. Was inspired by Antiliar's superb posts relating what his source told him. This is what I have:

Tony Catalano
Norberto Velez
Mike DeFillipis
Bobby English (don't steal a truck from that "break every fucking bone in your body" guy's crew, kids)

Are there others? I'm even looking for hits that are tangentially Outfit; i.e., killings that are part of the miasma of violence around the Outfit but weren't necessarily "hits" ordered to further organized crime purposes, hits that are collateral damage of these guys being violent in general. Outfit equivalents of Tommy killing Spider. :lol:

I can vaguely remember some others. A bartender and a girl that was with him? Mandell killing someone? Some black gangbanger very recently? Argh can't remember and can't find with search.

Good Scott overview of the first three here for those who have a GR account: https://gangsterreport.com/to-live-die- ... e-sources/
Discussed previously here:

viewtopic.php?p=180325#p180325
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