I think he posted it before talking with his sources. He’s got sources in Cicero.Cosmik_Debris wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:06 amI don't think he had a source. I think he saw the picture and created the story, only to immediately be called out as completely wrong.Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:38 amTo be fair he retracted it immediately as soon as he figured out his source whiffed on that one. I do wish he was a bit more strict about vetting things though.Cosmik_Debris wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:27 amHis original report was that Todaro was in Chicago having mob sit downs with Gigi and others, which was obviously bullshit. They took a pic at a food conference in Vegas.NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:21 amhttps://gangsterreport.com/big-joe-goes ... hoto-opps/Dr031718 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:23 amCan anyone post the photo?NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:46 pm Someone says LoBue is part of Greco and Sons too - they bought a previous business that was owned by their family. However, someone else says that is a different guy than 'Matteo LoBue' so maybe not. I do know Joseph Todaro is in that photo in front of Greco and Sons at a convention in Vegas with a Chicago Outfit guy.
I have a hard time trusting Scott and his "sources" anymore after that epic failure.
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Well he originally claimed several sources confirmed Todaro was in Chicago with Gigi meeting with people. Then once everyone called him out he changed the story to the sources were wrong but Todaro was in Chicago in the last year taking meetings to save face. It was a straight up creation of his imagination.
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Jason, IIRC. I might be wrong about the crew.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:55 amWhich Nitti is supposedly in the Cicero crew?Ivan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:50 pm What actual criminal activity does LoBue the restaurant guy in that video engage in that we know of? What are some of his Outfit ties?
Also Rainone, Guarino, Nitti, and the LoBues are all alleged to be in the Cicero crew, right? And we don't know anything about possible young made guys in the other crews? (Other than Nick Ferriola and the young Caruso?)
By "young" I mean like under 50 BTW.
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Is anyone aware of whether this is a member of Spilotro's Hole in the Wall Gang in Vegas (I was told he was)? I'm curious as its a New Jersey guy.
https://www.davismemorialpark.com/obitu ... y-Maiorano
The same name was identified with this group photo Spilotro is on (you can see his name bottom right). The resemblance is also there.
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https://www.davismemorialpark.com/obitu ... y-Maiorano
The same name was identified with this group photo Spilotro is on (you can see his name bottom right). The resemblance is also there.
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Ernie Davino was a New Jersey guy too. Never heard of him though but maybe Davino brought him in.NorthBuffalo wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:18 pm Is anyone aware of whether this is a member of Spilotro's Hole in the Wall Gang in Vegas (I was told he was)? I'm curious as its a New Jersey guy.
https://www.davismemorialpark.com/obitu ... y-Maiorano
The same name was identified with this group photo Spilotro is on (you can see his name bottom right). The resemblance is also there.
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Ok glad nobody said Nick Nitti, the guy who owns the pizza restaurants. He likes people to think he is an outfit guy but is just a little coked up wannabe.Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:33 amJason, IIRC. I might be wrong about the crew.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:55 amWhich Nitti is supposedly in the Cicero crew?Ivan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:50 pm What actual criminal activity does LoBue the restaurant guy in that video engage in that we know of? What are some of his Outfit ties?
Also Rainone, Guarino, Nitti, and the LoBues are all alleged to be in the Cicero crew, right? And we don't know anything about possible young made guys in the other crews? (Other than Nick Ferriola and the young Caruso?)
By "young" I mean like under 50 BTW.
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Nick Nitti has been on CCC charts for 40 years, but I think it's a different one (owned a travel agency?)
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This is a different one. That Nick Nitti was in pictures with all the top guys and definitely was associated, at least at a friendship level. This one is in his 40s and “owns” Forno Rosso in Chicago and Lucia Rose in Addison. He a shady guy for sure and is a coke head. Not very well liked in general. Picture of him below.
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Yeah, okay, thanks. I know the older one was associated going pretty far back, so I thought they may have been different guys. I don't know if the older Nitti is dead, yet. Maybe Tony knows.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:34 pmThis is a different one. That Nick Nitti was in pictures with all the top guys and definitely was associated, at least at a friendship level. This one is in his 40s and “owns” Forno Rosso in Chicago and Lucia Rose in Addison. He a shady guy for sure and is a coke head. Not very well liked in general. Picture of him below.
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They're brothers, I believe. Related to both the Travel Agency Nitti (same family from Bari) and the Cerones as well.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:58 pmOk glad nobody said Nick Nitti, the guy who owns the pizza restaurants. He likes people to think he is an outfit guy but is just a little coked up wannabe.Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:33 amJason, IIRC. I might be wrong about the crew.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:55 amWhich Nitti is supposedly in the Cicero crew?Ivan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:50 pm What actual criminal activity does LoBue the restaurant guy in that video engage in that we know of? What are some of his Outfit ties?
Also Rainone, Guarino, Nitti, and the LoBues are all alleged to be in the Cicero crew, right? And we don't know anything about possible young made guys in the other crews? (Other than Nick Ferriola and the young Caruso?)
By "young" I mean like under 50 BTW.
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I don’t believe they are related directly. Nick Nitti of the travel agency is way older plus it is rare for a family to name brothers the same name. Of course I could be wrong.PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:50 pmThey're brothers, I believe. Related to both the Travel Agency Nitti (same family from Bari) and the Cerones as well.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:58 pmOk glad nobody said Nick Nitti, the guy who owns the pizza restaurants. He likes people to think he is an outfit guy but is just a little coked up wannabe.Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:33 amJason, IIRC. I might be wrong about the crew.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:55 amWhich Nitti is supposedly in the Cicero crew?Ivan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:50 pm What actual criminal activity does LoBue the restaurant guy in that video engage in that we know of? What are some of his Outfit ties?
Also Rainone, Guarino, Nitti, and the LoBues are all alleged to be in the Cicero crew, right? And we don't know anything about possible young made guys in the other crews? (Other than Nick Ferriola and the young Caruso?)
By "young" I mean like under 50 BTW.
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I was curious of the older Nitti's age so I just checked. He's actually "younger" than I thought -- 79.
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No I meant Jason and Nicky from the pizzeria.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:29 amI don’t believe they are related directly. Nick Nitti of the travel agency is way older plus it is rare for a family to name brothers the same name. Of course I could be wrong.PolackTony wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 11:50 pmThey're brothers, I believe. Related to both the Travel Agency Nitti (same family from Bari) and the Cerones as well.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:58 pmOk glad nobody said Nick Nitti, the guy who owns the pizza restaurants. He likes people to think he is an outfit guy but is just a little coked up wannabe.Ivan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:33 amJason, IIRC. I might be wrong about the crew.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 8:55 amWhich Nitti is supposedly in the Cicero crew?Ivan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:50 pm What actual criminal activity does LoBue the restaurant guy in that video engage in that we know of? What are some of his Outfit ties?
Also Rainone, Guarino, Nitti, and the LoBues are all alleged to be in the Cicero crew, right? And we don't know anything about possible young made guys in the other crews? (Other than Nick Ferriola and the young Caruso?)
By "young" I mean like under 50 BTW.
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For anyone interested (also, don’t forget to use the search function as a lot of this has already been discussed before). As context, James Calabrese was the father of Frank and Nick Calabrese.
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Regarding the Nitti Travel Agency, the FBI believed it was responsible for handling the travel and accommodation arrangements, both domestic and abroad, for the Chicago Family. See also here, where Nick Nitti was responsible for booking a private “convention” in Vegas for Giancana and Salvo Lima, Mayor of Palermo City and mafia member.PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:06 pmPolackTony wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:42 pm
James Calabrese (parents Francesco Calabrese and Rosa Buonorata, of Mola Di Bari) also grew up on Racine at Grand Ave. Nicola Nitti, Sr was one of the witnesses to Francesco Calabrese's 1922 naturalization. Nicola Nitti was from Triggiano, Bari, where the De Fronzos were from (their paternal grandmother was also a Nitti from Triggiano), as well as Pasquale Spilotro and the father of Joe Lombardi (EP Joe Lombardi). The father of Outfit associate Vito James Nitti was also from Triggiano. Nicola Nitti married Maria Catania in Chicago in 1910. She was born in 1892 in Louisiana to Salvatore Catania of Termini Imerese and Mattea Bivona of Contessa Entellina; the family moved to Chicago after and lived on Ohio St in the Grand Ave Patch.
Nicola and Maria's son Nick Nitti, Jr was the famous Nick Nitti of the travel agency, who was observed traveling to Italy in the '60s with Accardo, Genovese member Gaetano "Tony Goebbels" Ricci, and Paul Ricca's sister Emily De Lucia. I personally suspect that the Nitti Travel Agency may have been an important conduit that gave legal cover to some of Chicago's connections back to Italy. This may be relevant considering that in later decades the Sacra Corona Unita was operating in Chicago with the Outfit and partnered with the EP crew. Nick Nitti, Jr was also the grandfather of reputed current Outfit member Jason Nitti. His son Nick Nitti (mother was Yolanda Micaletti; grew up on Grand Ave, parents from Napoli and Catania province, Sicily) married Rosa Cerone (they, in turn, had another son named Nick Nitti, restauranteur and brother of Jason Nitti). Rosa Cerone's grandfather, Luigi Cerone, was from Muro Lucano, Potenza, and likely related to Jackie Cerone's father Giovanni Cerone. In possible relation to Nick Nitti, Jr having close ties to Italy, the FBI specifically identified Jack Cerone, Jr as the pointman between the Chicago Outfit and Italian mafia affiliates in Chicago in the 80s/90s.
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