Cheech wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:51 am
Was it ever confirmed baby shacks was a CI? Flemmi alludes to it i believe
The book Rifleman which is a collection of Flemmi's debriefings talks about Baby Shacks being an informant. Also David Boeri in the radio program below also says that Manocchio had been an informant. It is about 7 minutes in.
Cheech wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:51 am
Was it ever confirmed baby shacks was a CI? Flemmi alludes to it i believe
The book Rifleman which is a collection of Flemmi's debriefings talks about Baby Shacks being an informant. Also David Boeri in the radio program below also says that Manocchio had been an informant. It is about 7 minutes in.
Side note - i read rifleman years ago. There had to be over 100 murders. It was actually pretty sickening
I have also read Rifleman and I agree with you that it was sickening. in the book Flemmi claims that Buddy McLean and the Bennetts were informants for Rico. however he has major credibility issues being a twisted person.
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:10 am
The thing with baby shackes was flemmi thought shacks was and the thing with st laurent was a typo in a court document . dont think he would have been indicted with his wife and son if he was giving info
Thanks Pmac for your recent message but both Jimmy the Bear Flemmi and later Mark Rossetti were indicted and did serious time despite the fact that they gave information about the mob. Didn't Jimmy Flemmi die in prison?
Cheech wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 10:21 am
What winter hill crew members were MADE. any ?
Did flemmi get made? Martarano?
Hi Cheech and I think it was only James Martorano the brother of infamous hitman John Martorano who got made as according to the article. He is described as a captain in the crime family.
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:12 pm
they borrowed money of anguilo in the 80tys didnt pay him back he must have put out a hit cause htye took off for the rest of the 80tys and didnt come back till the early 90tys after they did the bid in cali for extorting guys for chicago. baby shacks made the brothers in 995 96after salemme is jailed.
Thanks for your background information on the Dinunzio brothers and were they involved with Spilotro?
What kind of leaders were Jerry Angiulo and Frank Salemme? The book Underboss described Angiulo as a greedy bully who shouted a lot at his subordinates.
Salemme was blood thirsty after the attempted hit on him. He ordered a ton of hits in the 90's.
thanks for your recent message and are you referring to the hits on Donati, Hanrahan and Devincent to name a few
“The Cadillac Frank Hit Parade” – Following Francis (Cadillac Frank) Salemme being installed as New England’s Godfather in 1991, he went on a suspected killing spree, reputedly ordering the murders of at least a half-dozen local underworld figures he speculated were part of an offshoot faction of the Boston mob that tried to assassinate him two years prior in a power-grab that came on the heels of his release from prison and meteoric ascension through the ranks. Howard Ferrini (August 16, 1991), Bobby Donati, (September 1991), Barry Lazzerini, (October 3, 1991), Rocco Scali, (October 1992), Vincent Arcieri (December 1992), all showed up dead in the first 16 months of Salemme’s tenure as don.
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 9:10 am
The thing with baby shackes was flemmi thought shacks was and the thing with st laurent was a typo in a court document . dont think he would have been indicted with his wife and son if he was giving info
Also according to this court filing about the Salemme case a FBI agent said that Manocchio said that Sonny Mercurio was an informant https://casetext.com/case/us-v-salemme-6 I wonder how Baby Shacks knew that Mercurio and Flemmi were informants.
Also according to Flemmi in Rifleman his FBI handlers told him to stay away from Manocchio as the quote says 'FLEMMI asked his FBI handler John CONNOLLY about his arrest of SALEMME, and was told that it was the result of an accidental meeting as reported in newspaper accounts of the event. FLEMMI also added that in around 1990 or 1991, he directly asked CONNOLLY about redacted (possibly Manocchio or the Saint,)After speaking with FBI agent Nick “Doc” GIANTURCO about the matter, CONNOLLY advised FLEMMI to “stay away from MANOCCHIO.” FLEMMI knew that this was a signal from CONNOLLY that MANOCCHICO was redacted (possibly an informant)'
I think the fbi told flemmi to stay away from mancchico because he was on to flemmi being a informant but then again there's a picture of them eating together in 94ish. I think there's no concrete proof that him or the st laurent were informants. And flemmi was telling on both of them anyway
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Mon May 22, 2023 6:20 am
I think the fbi told flemmi to stay away from mancchico because he was on to flemmi being a informant but then again there's a picture of them eating together in 94ish. I think there's no concrete proof that him or the st laurent were informants. And flemmi was telling on both of them anyway
Thanks for your reply Pmac2 according to the book Hitman on p.370-371 by Howie Carr Martorano thought that St. Laurent was an informant. Also the Rhode island mobster tried to shake down someone who was part of Martorano's gambling network as he states that "we're getting a lot of help out in Vegas from this guy Joe Schneider—we called him Joe Schnitz. He was handling the “service” for us—he’d get us the lines before they came out in the papers, and make sure there were no surprises in the handicapping. He was valuable. So these wiseguys out in Vegas threatened him and his family, said if he doesn’t come up with 300 grand they're going to kill his family. It’s two hoods from Vegas and this guy from Providence, the Saint they call him. Anthony St. Laurent, another rat for the FBI as we later find out. Anyway, Richie Shea calls me up and tells me Joe Schnitz is being shaken down, and can we do anything? I asked Richie, is he with us? And Richie says, yeah, so I told him [ll handle this. I called up Stevie and said, talk to Sonny Mercurio—he was our liaison to the Mafia. I told Stevie, you tell Sonny to tell the Saint to leave Joe Schnitz alone, he’s with me. Tell the Saint if anything happens to Joe Schnitz or his family, the same thing will happen to him or whoever did it.'
Again it's never came out st laurent was a informant. It did come out a providence guy gurino who handled all the porn in Rhode Island gave up the meeting in Boston between Natale Richi and salemme and DeLuca. DeLuca labeled the st. A rat and tried to have him killed but he was never shelved and even got permission from baby shacks to kill bobby DeLuca in 2006 for labeling st. A rat