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Visiting Buffalo 1963

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Anna Sergi’s recent research article on the mafia in the Niagara region got me thinking more about Buffalo, so I decided to look back and get the ball rolling on the 1963 chart. Starting out with a membership list, I’ve gathered the following names and listed sources. I’m using the declassified 1967 membership list as a starting point as it seems to be the largest available from that period. From there I’ll add or subtract members based on their presence in other sources.

October 1967 FBI chart (accessed here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 7-10308%22)

Stefano Magaddino (Boss)
Fred Randaccio (Underboss)
Joseph Falcone (Captain/ Utica)
Frank Valenti (Captain/ Rochester)
Dominic Adiutori
Samuel Amico
Anthony Arena
Joseph Bongiorno
Samuel Bonito
Alfred Caci
Joseph Caci
John Cammilleri
Stephen Cannarozzo
Roy Carlisi
Charles Cassaro
Domenick D’Agostino
Anthony De Stefano
Joseph DiCarlo
Joseph Fino
Nicholas Fino
August Giannavola
Serafino Grio
James Laduca
Antonino Magaddino
Peter A. Magaddino
Peter J. Magaddino
Rosario Mancuso
Dominic Mantell
Salvatore Miano
Charles Montana
Pasquale Natarelli
Benjamin Nicoletti, Sr.
Ernest Panebianco
Anthony Perna
Rene Piccarreto
Salvatore Pieri
Pascal Politano
Victor Randaccio
Salvatore Rangatore
Angelo Rizzo
Jacomino Russolesi
Samuel Russotti
John Sacco
James Salamone
Salvatore Salli
Daniel Sansanese, Sr.
Vincent Scro
Benedetto Spano
Joseph Todaro, Sr.
Richard Tribunella
Harry Bordonaro (suspected)
Felix Borelli (suspected)
Paul Briandi (suspected)
Stephen Cino (suspected)
Charles Cipolla (suspected)
Joseph Fiorella (suspected)
Salvatore Frangiamore (suspected)
Daniel Gasbarrini (suspected)
Anthony Iati (suspected)
Nicholas Rizzo (suspected)
Salvatore Rizzo (suspected)
Dominick Romeo (suspected)
Richard Todaro (suspected)
Stanley Valenti (suspected)
Albert Volpe (suspected)
John Volpe (suspected)
Eugene Volpe (suspected)
Frank Volpe (suspected)
Paul Volpe (suspected)
James Vona (suspected)

In the same report the following are also listed as members of the Magaddino family by the FBI Albany division:

Sylvester Battaglia
Anthony Damiano
Salvatore Falcone
Vincenzo Femia
James Fiore
John Melito
Frank Pelli
Frank Russo
Joseph Sabella
Angelo Conte (suspected)
Anthony Falange (suspected)
Samuel Farrari (suspected)
Anthony Scro (suspected)
Charles Scro (suspected)
Joseph Scro (suspected)
Angelo Thomas (suspected)

The 1960/ 1969 FBI hierarchy comparison also lists Carlisi, Natarelli, and Nicoletti as captains, and Russolesi as the Rochester captain prior to Valenti however I'm not sure how accurate this is since it also inaccurately lists Scro as the consigliere.

I cross-referenced the above names with the 1985 DOJ list posted by Scott Deitche, the 1993 FBI list posted by Snakes, and the 1997 Halton Regional Police list. The following suspected members later appear on these lists as confirmed members:

Felix Borelli
Paul Briandi
Anthony Falange
Samuel Farrari
Salvatore Frangiamore

1985 list (found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8828)
1993 list (found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8550&hilit=capozzi)
1997 list (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201907 ... 86d75a.jpg)

Dominic Adiutori and James Salamone were both identified as Pittsburgh members in the 1985 DOJ list, but my understanding is at least Salamone was actually a Buffalo member.

Richard Todaro was also listed as a confirmed member in the 25 Years After Valachi report (https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/ ... =en&gbpv=1)

Stephen Cino can safely be dismissed as a Buffalo member given he was later inducted into the LA family (https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2022/09/lo ... 1980s.html).

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Joseph Valachi also confirmed that the following were Buffalo members:

Joseph LaBarbara
Samuel Lagattuta
John Montana
Anthony Privatura
Pasquale Sciortino

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Other names I have seen in various FBI files from the 1960s listed as members or suspected members:

Albert Agueci (murdered 1961)
Vito Agueci (confirmed on 1997 list)
Salvatore Brocato
Thomas Callea (died 1967)
Joseph Fiorella
Samuel Galante
Louis Innazella
Joseph Leone
Giacomo Luppino
John Papalia (confirmed on 1993 list)
Edward Scillia
Salvatore Scro (died 1962)
Michael Tascarella
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Also got a start on breaking down the information on some of the confirmed members as of 1963.

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BOSS

NAME: Stefano G. Magaddino
ALIAS: Steve, Don Stefano, The Boss, The Old Man, Stephen Magaddino
DOB: 10/10/1891; POB: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 7/19/1974; POD: Lewiston, NY
FATHER: Giovanni Magaddino; MOTHER: Giuseppa Ciaravino
SPOUSE: Carmelia Caroddo
OCCUPATION: Retired
ORIGINS: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 5118 Dana Drive, Lewiston, NY
FBI: 778722C; NYPD: 3080

UNDERBOSS

NAME: Fred G. Randaccio
ALIAS: Fred Lupo, Frederico Garibaldi Randaccio, Frederico Gabriel Randaccio, Frederico Gabriel Facci, Fred Randazzio, Fred Randazzo, Frederick
DOB: 7/1/1907; POB: Palermo, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 10/4/2004; POD:
FATHER: Umberto Emanuel (Albert) Randaccio; MOTHER: Maria Felicia (Mary) D’Amico
SPOUSE: Cecilia B. Skibinski
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Tur-Ran Builders, Amherst, NY)
ORIGINS: Palermo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 562 Richmond Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 286928; BPD: 24313

CAPIDECINA

NAME: Roy Carlisi
ALIAS: Ray, Rosario, Roy Caruso, Roy the Clam Man, Roy Carlise
DOB: 4/10/1909; POB: Chicago, IL
DOD: 4/29/1980; POD: West Seneca, NY
FATHER: Joseph Carlisi; MOTHER: Calogera (Charlotte) Cassaro
SPOUSE: Filippa Romano
OCCUPATION: Manager (Buddy’s Chicken and Fish Take-Out, Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Canicatti, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 20 Anderson Place, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 1434575

NAME: Joseph Falcone
ALIAS: Giuseppe, Joe
DOB: 1/27/1902; POB: Sciacca, Agrigento, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 3/27/1992; POD:
FATHER: Antonio Falcone; MOTHER: Maria
SPOUSE: Mary L. Abruzzo
OCCUPATION: Manager (liquor store)
ORIGINS: Sciacca, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 1623 Mohawk Street, Utica, NY (1964)
FBI: 1697613

NAME: Pasquale Anthony Natarelli
ALIAS: Pasquale Anthony Notarelle, Pascal, Patsy, Patty, Pat Titters
DOB: 7/9/1910; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 4/21/1993; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Valentino Natarelli; MOTHER: Rose Panaro
SPOUSE: Angeline Panero
OCCUPATION: Construction worker
ORIGINS: San Valentino in Abruzzo Citeriore, Pescara, Abruzzo
RESIDENCE: 60 Manchester Street, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 317749; BPD: 23974

NAME: Benjamin Joseph Nicoletti, Sr.
ALIAS: Benny
DOB: 1/28/1912; POB: Valguarnera Caropepe, Enna, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 5/22/1982; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Giuseppe (Joseph) Nicoletti; MOTHER: Pauline Gagliano
SPOUSE: Edith Cubello
OCCUPATION: Hotelier (1956)
ORIGINS: Valguarnera Caropepe, Enna, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 34 Fourth Gray Drive, Lewiston, NY (1962)
FBI:

NAME: Jacomino John Russolesi
ALIAS: Jack John Rossalesi, Jack Giacomo Russo, Jake Russo
DOB: 7/11/1909; POB: NY
DOD: 9/12/1964; POD: Rochester, NY (murdered)
FATHER: Vincenzo (James) Russolesi; MOTHER: Providensa (Pearl) Silivestra
SPOUSE: Phyllis Virginia Scognetti
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS: Polizzi Generosa, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 47 Clarington Street, Irondequoit, NY (1964)
FBI: 1360312

SOLDIERS

NAME: Samuel Joseph Amico
ALIAS: Sam
DOB: 10/13/1926; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 5/3/1992; POD: Las Vegas, NV
FATHER: Pasquale Amico; MOTHER: Carmela Zarcone
SPOUSE: Divorced
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Northeast Veterans Club, Rochester, NY)
ORIGINS: Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 2790 Culver Road, Irondequoit, NY (1966)
FBI: ; NYS: 1025480M

NAME: Anthony Cosmo Arena
ALIAS: Nippy
DOB: 6/6/1915; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 10/11/2009; POD: Myrtle Beach, SC
FATHER: ; MOTHER:
SPOUSE: Mary J. Natale
OCCUPATION: Painter (Monroe Collision Service) (1960)
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: 25 Kaymar Drive, Greece, NY (1960)
FBI: ; Rochester PD: 46591

NAME: Joseph Stephen Bongiorno
ALIAS: Joe Bongi
DOB: 9/6/1916; POB: Brooklyn, NY
DOD: 2/28/1996; POD: Shirley, NY
FATHER: Gaspare Bongiorno; MOTHER: Costanza Caroddo
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION: Bartender (Pine Bowl Restaurant and Bar, Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani
RESIDENCE: Sleepytime Motel, Pine Avenue, Niagara Falls, NY (1964)
FBI:

NAME: Samuel Salvatore Bonito
ALIAS: Sal, Samuel Salvatore Bonita, George Raft
DOB: 3/30/1914; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 10/11/1975; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Anthony Bonita; MOTHER: Angeline Tomasulo
SPOUSE: Marie Menard
OCCUPATION: Unemployed
ORIGINS: Accadia, Foggia, Apulia
RESIDENCE: 49 Antoinette Drive, Depew, NY
FBI: 349617; BPD: 26067

NAME: Joseph Caci, Sr.
ALIAS: Giuseppe, Joe Fish
DOB: 2/19/1907; POB: Porto Empedocle, Agrigento, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 9/30/1988; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Onofrio Caci; MOTHER: Antonina Sanfilippo
SPOUSE: Phyllis Fanara
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Italian Gardens Restaurant, Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Porto Empedocle, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: Buffalo, NY
FBI:

NAME: Onofrio Thomas Caci
ALIAS: Alfred, Al
DOB: 3/17/1917; POB: NY
DOD: 8/4/1974; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Alfonzo Caci; MOTHER: Giuseppina (Josephine) Dina
SPOUSE: Jennie R. Tomaselli
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS: Porto Empedocle, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 183 Busti Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI:

NAME: John C. Cammilleri
ALIAS: Giovanni, John Victor Cammilleri, John Vito Cammilleri, John Camilleri
DOB: 10/17/1912; POB: Campobello di Licata, Agrigento, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 5/8/1974; POD: Buffalo, NY (murdered)
FATHER: Angelo Cammilleri; MOTHER: Lucy Diana
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Vin James Builders Inc.)
ORIGINS: Campobello di Licata, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 542 Richmond Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 387061; BPD: 27041

NAME: Stephen Cannarozzo
ALIAS: Steve, Flattop, Siki, Steven Connarozzo
DOB: 5/26/1921; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 2/23/1982; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Victor Cannarozzo; MOTHER: Madeline Rinaldo
SPOUSE: Divorced
OCCUPATION: Dispatcher (Madison Cab Co., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Ravanusa, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 29 Dansforth Place, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 2813603; BPD: 41199

NAME: Charles Anthony Cassaro
ALIAS: Charles Anthony Cassara
DOB: 9/29/1921; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 5/3/1997; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Vincent Cassaro; MOTHER: Lena Alaimo
SPOUSE: Genevieve G. Fanara
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Vulcan Methods of Buffalo, Inc., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: 793 Busti Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI:

NAME: Domenick Vincent D’Agostino
ALIAS: Domenico, Dominic, Dominick, Dominick Dagstino
DOB: 12/7/1889; POB: Reggio Calabria, Calabria, Italy
DOD: 8/18/1970; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Giuseppe D’Agostino; MOTHER: Dominica Sacca
SPOUSE: Domenica Moscato
OCCUPATION: (Hilltop Restaurant, Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada) former
ORIGINS: Reggio Calabria, Calabria
RESIDENCE: 2226 Ontario Avenue, Niagara Falls, NY
FBI: 332258; BPD: 25668

NAME: Anthony De Stefano
ALIAS: Antonio, Baby Face
DOB: 3/4/1911; POB: Italy
DOD: 1/1/1992; POD:
FATHER: ; MOTHER:
SPOUSE: Rose Massaro (father Peter Massaro)
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (restaurant)
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: 211 Oneida Street, Fulton, NY
FBI:

NAME: Joseph J. DiCarlo
ALIAS: Giuseppe, Joseph DeCarlo, Joe the Gyp, Joseph Yorke, Jerry the Wolf
DOB: 11/8/1899; POB: Vallelunga Pratameno, Caltanissetta, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 10/11/1980; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Giuseppe (Joseph) DiCarlo; MOTHER: Vincenza Grasso
SPOUSE: Elsie Pieri
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS: Vallelunga Pratameno, Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 426 Richards Drive, Youngstown, OH
FBI: 286967; BPD: 14592

NAME: Joseph Michael Fino
ALIAS: Joe, Justin Fino, Justin Fina, James E. Iannello
DOB: 3/13/1915; POB: Milwaukee, WI
DOD: 3/13/1984; POD:
FATHER: Rocco Fino; MOTHER: Angeline Maria Bertolini
SPOUSE: Arlene C. Buckard
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: 230 Pellman Place, West Seneca, NY
FBI: 450187; BPD: 26887

NAME: Nicholas Rocco Fino
ALIAS: Nick
DOB: 2/23/1921; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 1/2/1982; POD:
FATHER: Rocco Fino; MOTHER: Angeline Maria Bertolini
SPOUSE: Rosalie A. Lauricell
OCCUPATION: Driver (1956)
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: Buffalo, NY (1956)
FBI:

NAME: August P. Giannavola
ALIAS: Gus
DOB: 9/8/1921; POB:
DOD: 7/23/2007; POD: Rochester, NY
FATHER: August Giannavola; MOTHER: Michelina Grimaldi
SPOUSE: Mary A. Savarino
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (August Packing Co., Rochester, NY)
ORIGINS: Castrogiovanni, Enna, Sicily or Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 104 Dierdre Drive, Irondequoit, NY (1970)
FBI: ; NYISS: 0856369J

WWI draft lists Castrogiovanni as August Giannavola Sr’s birthplace, whereas the WWII draft lists Caltanissetta

NAME: Serafino Grio
ALIAS: Sam, Sarafino
DOB: 6/10/1894; POB: Cosoleto, Reggio Calabria, Calabria, Italy
DOD: 4/13/1984; POD: Elk Grove, CA
FATHER: Antonio Grio; MOTHER: Vatarini
SPOUSE: Rose D. Caparusso
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Venezia Café)
ORIGINS: Cosoleto, Reggio Calabria, Calabria
RESIDENCE: 423 Lansing Street, Utica, NY (1964); formerly 561 Bleeker Street, Utica, NY (1959)
FBI:

NAME: James Vincent Laduca
ALIAS: James Vincent La Duca, Vincenzo Laduca
DOB: 10/19/1912; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 9/25/1993; POD: Lewiston, NY
FATHER: Giovanni Laduca; MOTHER: Giovannina Bellanca
SPOUSE: Angeline Carmela Magaddino
OCCUPATION: (Camellia Linen Supply Co., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Valledolmo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 5114 Dana Drive, Lewiston, NY
FBI: 791902C

NAME: Antonino Magaddino
ALIAS: Nino, Antonio, Tony Lombardo
DOB: 6/18/1897; POB: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 4/13/1971; POD: Niagara Falls, NY
FATHER: Giovanni Magaddino; MOTHER: Giuseppa Ciaravino
SPOUSE: Vincenza Vitale
OCCUPATION: Vice-President (Magaddino Memorial Chapel, Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 1528 Whitney Avenue, Niagara Falls, NY
FBI: 947466; I&NS-A: 1086290

NAME: Peter Anthony Magaddino
ALIAS:
DOB: 2/25/1917; POB: Brooklyn, NY
DOD: 8/16/1976; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Stefano Magaddino; MOTHER: Carmelia Caroddo
SPOUSE: Frances D. Montana
OCCUPATION: President (Magaddino Memorial Chapel, Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 703 22nd Street, Niagara Falls, NY
FBI:

Peter J. Magaddino
ALIAS: Pete
DOB: 1/12/1923; POB: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 7/1/1990; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Antonino Magaddino; MOTHER: Vincenza Vitale
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION: (Magaddino Memorial Chapel, Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 1528 Whitney Avenue, Niagara Falls, NY
FBI:

NAME: Rosario Victor Mancuso
ALIAS: Russell, Joe Greco
DOB: 1/29/1907; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 5/2/1971; POD: Utica, NY
FATHER: Orazio Mancuso; MOTHER: Anna Maria
SPOUSE: Cora Montemurro
OCCUPATION: (Nuform Concrete, Co., Utica, NY)
ORIGINS: Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 926 Arthur Street, Utica, NY
FBI: 39238; BPD: 15940

NAME: Dominic Bruno Mantell
ALIAS: Domenick, Dominick
DOB: 1/13/1918; POB: Niagara Falls, NY
DOD: 10/4/1992; POD: Lauderhill, FL
FATHER: Samuel A. (Salvatore) Mantell; MOTHER: Frances Chiodo
SPOUSE: Elizabeth C.
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (flower shop, Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Cotronei, Calabria
RESIDENCE: 902 Dana Dive, Lewiston, NY
FBI:

NAME: Salvatore Thomas Miano
ALIAS: Salvatore Thomas Miana, Samuel, Sam
DOB: 12/26/1918; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 8/9/1971; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Joseph Miano; MOTHER: Louise Nocera
SPOUSE: Josephine Drello; Betty Jones
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Metro Paving Contractors)
ORIGINS: Campobello di Licata, Agrigento, Sicily (mother)
RESIDENCE: 1753 Hertel Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 2953115; BPD: 48555

NAME: Charles Angelo Montana
ALIAS: Charlie
DOB: 11/6/1912; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 2/15/1995; POD: Cheektowaga, NY
FATHER: Giuseppe (Joseph) Montana; MOTHER: Flora Ciminella
SPOUSE: Josephine Magaddino
OCCUPATION: (Camellia Linen Supply Co., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Montedoro, Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: Dana Drive, Lewiston, NY
FBI:

NAME: Ernest Panebianco
ALIAS: Ernest White, Ernesto
DOB: 5/6/1918; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 5/18/2000; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Ralph Panebianco; MOTHER: Anna Spano
SPOUSE: Helen Dorobiala
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Pandora Exterminators Co., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Valledolmo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 351 Fox Street, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 752377

NAME: Anthony A. Perna
ALIAS: Tony, Anthony Gentile, Lucky
DOB: 4/11/1903; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 3/6/1968; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Francesco (Frank) Perna; MOTHER: Rosalia Vinci
SPOUSE: Mary Mascari
OCCUPATION: (Perna Funeral Home, Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 246 Massachusetts Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 160003; BPD: 18724

NAME: Rene James Piccarreto, Sr.
ALIAS: Rene James Picarretto, The Painter
DOB: 7/8/1924; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 3/26/2014; POD: Rochester, NY
FATHER: Vito Piccarreto; MOTHER: Adelina Argento
SPOUSE: Rita Donahoe
OCCUPATION: Painting contractor
ORIGINS: Corato, Bari, Apulia (father), Agrigento, Sicily (mother)
RESIDENCE: 2146 Lehigh Station Road, Henrietta, NY
FBI: ; DCJS: 0297148L

NAME: Salvatore Joseph Pieri
ALIAS: Sam, Samuel, Salvatore Falcone, Salvatore Projelto, Sam Johns
DOB: 1/29/1911; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 8/24/1981; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Giovanni (John) Pieri; MOTHER: Ignazia (Anna) Cirese
SPOUSE: Carol (Carrie) LoTempio
OCCUPATION: Unemployed
ORIGINS: Montemaggiore Belsito, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 596 West Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 182971; BPD: 20699

NAME: Pascal Frank Politano
ALIAS: Pasquale, Pat, Baggy Pants, Lucky Pat, Pantaloons
DOB: 12/12/1921; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 6/1/2001; POD:
FATHER: Mauro Politano; MOTHER: Angela Melucci
SPOUSE: Patricia Groh
OCCUPATION: Electrician (Buffalo Electric) (1950)
ORIGINS: Muro Lucano, Potenza, Basilicata
RESIDENCE: 57 Days Park, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 270299A; BPD: 62255

Mauro Politano’s WWI draft lists his POB as Naples

NAME: Victor Emanuel Randaccio
ALIAS: Vittorio Emanuele Randaccio
DOB: 5/28/1921; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 11/10/1995; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Umberto Emanuel (Albert) Randaccio; MOTHER: Maria Felicia (Mary) D’Amico
SPOUSE: Monica Rago
OCCUPATION: Secretary-Treasurer (Laborers Union Local 210, Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Palermo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 282 Sterling Avenue, Buffalo, NY (1964)
FBI:

NAME: Salvatore G. Rangatore, Jr.
ALIAS: Samuel
DOB: 11/18/1908; POB: Niagara Falls, NY
DOD: 12/26/1971; POD: Lewiston, NY
FATHER: Samuel Joseph Rangatore; MOTHER: Concetta Sartore
SPOUSE: Josephine DiSalvo
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Rangatore Vending Machine Co., Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Palermo, Sicily (father), Agrigento, Sicily (mother)
RESIDENCE: 614 Hyde Park Boulevard, Niagara Falls, NY (1962); 610 31st St (1964)
FBI:

NAME: Angelo Peter Rizzo
ALIAS: Tony Rizzo, Frank Rizzo
DOB: 10/8/1917; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 3/1/1994; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Pietro S. (Peter) Rizzo; MOTHER: Concetta (Mary) Augello
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION: (Railroad Waterproofing Co., Niagara Falls, NY)
ORIGINS: Serradifalco, Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 12 Brayton Street, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 3048101; BPD: 43211

NAME: Samuel Joseph Russotti
ALIAS: Samuel Joseph Russoni, Red
DOB: 1/14/1912; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 6/25/1993; POD: FCI Milan, MI
FATHER: Salvatore Russotti; MOTHER: Loretta Marceno
SPOUSE: Ida LaMartina
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Clifford Novelty Shop, Rochester, NY)
ORIGINS: Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 52 Creekside Drive, Irondequoit, NY
FBI:

NAME: John Charles Sacco, Jr.
ALIAS:
DOB: 7/12/1927; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 12/9/1990; POD: Niagara Falls, NY
FATHER: John S. Sacco; MOTHER: Alberta Marr
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION: Sanitation inspector
ORIGINS: Campobello di Licata, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 245 Bedford Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI:

NAME: James Paul Salamone
ALIAS: Westfield Jimmy
DOB: 1/2/1906; POB: Westfield, NY
DOD: 10/8/1995; POD:
FATHER: Calogero (Charles) Salamone; MOTHER: Vincenza (Jennie) Burgio
SPOUSE:
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS: Serradifalco, Caltanissetta, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 1405 Pasadena Drive, Erie, PA
FBI:

NAME: Salvatore Nicholas Salli
ALIAS: Sam
DOB: 11/5/1909; POB: Racalmuto, Agrigento, Sicily, Italy
DOD: 10/29/1982; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Luigi Salli; MOTHER: Giovanna (Jennie) DiLiberto
SPOUSE: Hilda Frederick
OCCUPATION: Incarcerated
ORIGINS: Racalmuto, Agrigento, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 342 North Division Street, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 1185619; BPD: 22446

NAME: Daniel G. Sansanese, Sr.
ALIAS: Danny, Sansanse
DOB: 5/27/1908; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 11/1/1975; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Gerardo (Gerald) Sansanese; MOTHER: Maria Rose (Marie) Rinaldo
SPOUSE: Rose M. Bagarozzi
OCCUPATION: Salesman (1950)
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: 208 Lexington Avenue, Buffalo, NY
FBI: 129535; BPD: 18771

NAME: Vincent Anthony Scro
ALIAS:
DOB: 7/28/1924; POB: Auburn, NY
DOD: 7/22/2009; POD: Falls Church, VA
FATHER: Salvatore (Sam) Scro; MOTHER: Mary J. Lodico
SPOUSE: Arcangela Magaddino
OCCUPATION: Accountant (Camellia Linen Supply Co., Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Marineo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: Dana Drive, Lewiston, NY
FBI:

NAME: Benedetto P. Spano
ALIAS: Benny, Benedict, Benjamin
DOB: 6/29/1915; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 5/19/1970; POD: Buffalo, NY
FATHER: Vincenzo (Vincent) Spano; MOTHER: Angeline Saglibene
SPOUSE: Columbia Rose (Cal) Calabrese
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (Lustre Cleaners, Buffalo, NY)
ORIGINS: Bagheria, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 354 Virginia Street, Buffalo, NY (1964)
FBI:

NAME: Joseph Edward Todaro
ALIAS: Joe Theresa, Papa Joe, Lead Pipe Joe, Joe T.
DOB: 9/18/1923; POB: Buffalo, NY
DOD: 12/26/2012; POD: Amherst, NY
FATHER: Anthony Todaro; MOTHER: Sarah Frangiamore
SPOUSE: Josephine Santamauro
OCCUPATION: Proprietor (La Nova Pizzeria, Tonawanda, NY)
ORIGINS: Montallegro, Agrigento, Sicily (father), Mussomeli, Caltanissetta, Sicily (mother)
RESIDENCE: 95 Joseph Drive, Tonawanda, NY
FBI: 3831577

NAME: Richard A. Tribunella
ALIAS:
DOB: 5/7/1929; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 4/6/1996; POD: Rochester, NY
FATHER: Cosimo (Frank) Tribunella; MOTHER: Cora Cammarata
SPOUSE: Joan Gabello
OCCUPATION: Labourer
ORIGINS: Caltavuturo, Palermo, Sicily
RESIDENCE: 240 Nichola’s Street, Rochester, NY
FBI: 2482784; NYSIIS: 2482784

NAME: Frank Joseph Valenti
ALIAS: Frank Valente, Larry Costello, Frank Ross, Joe Jackson
DOB: 9/14/1911; POB: Rochester, NY
DOD: 9/20/2008; POD: Houston, TX
FATHER: Giuseppe (Joseph) Valenti; MOTHER: Rosalie (Rose) Inserra
SPOUSE: Eileen Barefoot
OCCUPATION:
ORIGINS:
RESIDENCE: Main Entrance Drive, Mt. Lebanon, PA
FBI: 752390; Pittsburgh PD: 27741; NYSIIS: 2482784
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Great list.

- Dominick Romeo can be confirmed based on the conversations he had on the Magaddino tapes. From Siderno.

- Valachi said he knew Agueci's lawyer in Canada was an amico nostra but couldn't remember his name. It's a reference to Harry Bordonaro so he could be moved to confirmed. Harry's father Calogero was a member but not sure when he died.

- I believe Frank Valenti was still technically a Pittsburgh member until late 1964 when his legal restrictions ended and he was allowed to return to Rochester. Magaddino said he'd been looking after Valenti's interests because the other borgata (Pittsburgh) couldn't or wouldn't.

- Frank's father Joseph Valenti was a member based on info from Sam Mannarino, as he said Stan Valenti's marriage to Tony Ripepi's daughter was an arranged marriage by made members. Don't know if Joseph Valenti was alive or whether he belonged to Buffalo or Pittsburgh. Heritage in Grotte, Agrigento.

- Joseph DiCarlo was identified as a Colombo member in 1967 right before he transferred back to Buffalo. If that's true his brother-in-law Tony Bonasera likely arranged it.

- Sam DiCarlo was living in Miami, not sure if he transferred out of Buffalo like his brother, Joe Pieri, and Tronolone but he was definitely made with Buffalo originally.

- Pasquale and Saverio Monachino should be suspected members. They were probably with the Rochester crew like their friend Sciortino before moving to Canada.

- Cassaro's origins were in Ravanusa.

- Sam Galante was with Pittston.

- Other Cipolla brothers were suspected members in Hamilton, would have to check which ones. Their heritage was in Racalmuto like the Bordonaros and Scibettas.
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Also with there being confusion over whether Giannavola was from Enna or Caltanissetta, I've seen other references to guys born in that part of Enna who listed their origins as Caltanissetta. It's right near the border of the two provinces and like Camporeale/Trapani I wonder if the provincial border changed at some point like it did in other areas. It's mostly academic anyway.

With Thomas Callea, his father and uncle were from Licata and major figures before they were killed in the 1930s. Callea was explicitly named as a Buffalo member and his funeral was attended by a bunch of Family leaders.
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B. wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:08 pm Also with there being confusion over whether Giannavola was from Enna or Caltanissetta, I've seen other references to guys born in that part of Enna who listed their origins as Caltanissetta. It's right near the border of the two provinces and like Camporeale/Trapani I wonder if the provincial border changed at some point like it did in other areas. It's mostly academic anyway.
That's something I was wondering about as well. Castrogiovanni was renamed Enna between the world wars so that may have had something to do with it.

The other thing I noticed that surprised me somewhat was the lack of members from Trapani. My knowledge of Buffalo before looking into them from this thread was limited but I had assumed there would be more Castellammaresi members. Whereas with all the members I've looked into so far, only the Magaddino relatives have turned out to be from there. Wasn't expecting it to be majority Palermo/ Agrigento. But then again there's about 50 names left to look into so that very well could change.
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chin_gigante wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:06 pm
B. wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:08 pm Also with there being confusion over whether Giannavola was from Enna or Caltanissetta, I've seen other references to guys born in that part of Enna who listed their origins as Caltanissetta. It's right near the border of the two provinces and like Camporeale/Trapani I wonder if the provincial border changed at some point like it did in other areas. It's mostly academic anyway.
That's something I was wondering about as well. Castrogiovanni was renamed Enna between the world wars so that may have had something to do with it.

The other thing I noticed that surprised me somewhat was the lack of members from Trapani. My knowledge of Buffalo before looking into them from this thread was limited but I had assumed there would be more Castellammaresi members. Whereas with all the members I've looked into so far, only the Magaddino relatives have turned out to be from there. Wasn't expecting it to be majority Palermo/ Agrigento. But then again there's about 50 names left to look into so that very well could change.
Yeah, there was a larger Castellammarese element in the 1920s but the prominence of the Magaddino clan sort of distorts people's view. Family was much more Agrigento-Caltanissetta/Enna throughout its history. Early unconfirmed members too were from there.

Most of the mainlanders were Calabrian which is interesting and indications are they had 'ndrangheta roots. You had the Ontario guys then Utica recruited some guys who started out with the Central NY Calabrian group(s) like Nino Trunfio, Frank Russo, and Sam Grio. The "boss" of the early Calabrians was Giuseppe D'Agostino, not sure what became of him but he was older. Don't know if he was a relative of Dominick D'Agostino but Dominick was Calabrese and a longtime liaison to the Utica crew.
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chin_gigante wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:06 pm
B. wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:08 pm Also with there being confusion over whether Giannavola was from Enna or Caltanissetta, I've seen other references to guys born in that part of Enna who listed their origins as Caltanissetta. It's right near the border of the two provinces and like Camporeale/Trapani I wonder if the provincial border changed at some point like it did in other areas. It's mostly academic anyway.
That's something I was wondering about as well. Castrogiovanni was renamed Enna between the world wars so that may have had something to do with it.
Enna province didn’t exist until 1927. Before that, the comuni that are today in Enna were part of Caltanissetta province (with a small bit formerly in Catania province). At this time, the city of Castrogiovanni (Castru Janni in Sicilianu) was also renamed Enna and made the capital of the new province.
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chin_gigante wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:44 pm Anna Sergi’s recent research article on the mafia in the Niagara region got me thinking more about Buffalo, so I decided to look back and get the ball rolling on the 1963 chart. Starting out with a membership list, I’ve gathered the following names and listed sources. I’m using the declassified 1967 membership list as a starting point as it seems to be the largest available from that period. From there I’ll add or subtract members based on their presence in other sources.

October 1967 FBI chart (accessed here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 7-10308%22)

Stefano Magaddino (Boss)
Fred Randaccio (Underboss)
Joseph Falcone (Captain/ Utica)
Frank Valenti (Captain/ Rochester)
Dominic Adiutori
Samuel Amico
Anthony Arena
Joseph Bongiorno
Samuel Bonito
Alfred Caci
Joseph Caci
John Cammilleri
Stephen Cannarozzo
Roy Carlisi
Charles Cassaro
Domenick D’Agostino
Anthony De Stefano
Joseph DiCarlo
Joseph Fino
Nicholas Fino
August Giannavola
Serafino Grio
James Laduca
Antonino Magaddino
Peter A. Magaddino
Peter J. Magaddino
Rosario Mancuso
Dominic Mantell
Salvatore Miano
Charles Montana
Pasquale Natarelli
Benjamin Nicoletti, Sr.
Ernest Panebianco
Anthony Perna
Rene Piccarreto
Salvatore Pieri
Pascal Politano
Victor Randaccio
Salvatore Rangatore
Angelo Rizzo
Jacomino Russolesi
Samuel Russotti
John Sacco
James Salamone
Salvatore Salli
Daniel Sansanese, Sr.
Vincent Scro
Benedetto Spano
Joseph Todaro, Sr.
Richard Tribunella
Harry Bordonaro (suspected)
Felix Borelli (suspected)
Paul Briandi (suspected)
Stephen Cino (suspected)
Charles Cipolla (suspected)
Joseph Fiorella (suspected)
Salvatore Frangiamore (suspected)
Daniel Gasbarrini (suspected)
Anthony Iati (suspected)
Nicholas Rizzo (suspected)
Salvatore Rizzo (suspected)
Dominick Romeo (suspected)
Richard Todaro (suspected)
Stanley Valenti (suspected)
Albert Volpe (suspected)
John Volpe (suspected)
Eugene Volpe (suspected)
Frank Volpe (suspected)
Paul Volpe (suspected)
James Vona (suspected)

In the same report the following are also listed as members of the Magaddino family by the FBI Albany division:

Sylvester Battaglia
Anthony Damiano
Salvatore Falcone
Vincenzo Femia
James Fiore
John Melito
Frank Pelli
Frank Russo
Joseph Sabella
Angelo Conte (suspected)
Anthony Falange (suspected)
Samuel Farrari (suspected)
Anthony Scro (suspected)
Charles Scro (suspected)
Joseph Scro (suspected)
Angelo Thomas (suspected)

The 1960/ 1969 FBI hierarchy comparison also lists Carlisi, Natarelli, and Nicoletti as captains, and Russolesi as the Rochester captain prior to Valenti however I'm not sure how accurate this is since it also inaccurately lists Scro as the consigliere.

I cross-referenced the above names with the 1985 DOJ list posted by Scott Deitche, the 1993 FBI list posted by Snakes, and the 1997 Halton Regional Police list. The following suspected members later appear on these lists as confirmed members:

Felix Borelli
Paul Briandi
Anthony Falange
Samuel Farrari
Salvatore Frangiamore

1985 list (found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8828)
1993 list (found in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8550&hilit=capozzi)
1997 list (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201907 ... 86d75a.jpg)

Dominic Adiutori and James Salamone were both identified as Pittsburgh members in the 1985 DOJ list, but my understanding is at least Salamone was actually a Buffalo member.

Richard Todaro was also listed as a confirmed member in the 25 Years After Valachi report (https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/ ... =en&gbpv=1)

Stephen Cino can safely be dismissed as a Buffalo member given he was later inducted into the LA family (https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2022/09/lo ... 1980s.html).

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Joseph Valachi also confirmed that the following were Buffalo members:

Joseph LaBarbara
Samuel Lagattuta
John Montana
Anthony Privatura
Pasquale Sciortino

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Other names I have seen in various FBI files from the 1960s listed as members or suspected members:

Albert Agueci (murdered 1961)
Vito Agueci (confirmed on 1997 list)
Salvatore Brocato
Thomas Callea (died 1967)
Joseph Fiorella
Samuel Galante
Louis Innazella
Joseph Leone
Giacomo Luppino
John Papalia (confirmed on 1993 list)
Edward Scillia
Salvatore Scro (died 1962)
Michael Tascarella
Angelo Massaro
Benedetto Carcone (Utica)
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A Rocco Fino matching the age of Joe/Nick's father arrived from Misilmeri going to Philly in 1903. Could be him.
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PolackTony wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:51 pm Enna province didn’t exist until 1927. Before that, the comuni that are today in Enna were part of Caltanissetta province (with a small bit formerly in Catania province). At this time, the city of Castrogiovanni (Castru Janni in Sicilianu) was also renamed Enna and made the capital of the new province.
Thanks! Clears that up nicely
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Great work here, Chin.

B. wrote: Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:48 pm - Cassaro's origins were in Ravanusa.
As we’ve discussed before, both the Carlisi brothers and Al Tornabene’s mothers were Cassaros, sisters who were originally from Ravanusa (Tornabene was also a cousin of Gambino captain Al Tornabe/Tornabene). We’ve also seen that the majority of guys working in the huge bootlegging ring in Chicago/Cicero/WI under Totò LoVerde in 1930 were Canicattesi and Caltanissettesi, and several had close ties to Buffalo. One, Angelo Lalomia, from Canicattì, was stated as residing in Buffalo at the time of the bust.

There seems to definitely have been an Eastern Agrigentino axis in the US mafia, which encompassed (at least) Buffalo, Cleveland, Chicago, and the Gambinos, apart from the better known and more easily discerned Western Agrigento network. Racalmuto, Ravanusa, Grotte, Naro, Licata, Campobello di Licata. One thing to note which could have been an important factor here is that in the past all of these comuni (apart from coastal Licata) were part of the same Central Sicilian dialect area, which also encompassed Caltanissetta and modern Enna provinces as well as the western fringe of Catania. There was thus something of a cultural distinction between these areas and Western Sicily.
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Yep, exactly. Eastern AG was its own distinct identity for sure. Like Caltanissetta they've also had to deal with the Stidda in recent decades.

Roy Carlisi's father-in-law Calogero Romano was almost certainly a Buffalo member from Pietraperzia in Enna/Caltanissetta but it's very close to Canicatti. I've read Romano moved between Chicago and WNY like them but not sure it's confirmed. He was also close to the Calleas from Licata.

Re: Cassaro. One of the Carlisi sisters apparently married a Charles Cassaro who lived/moved to WNY but I never confirmed if it was the Buffalo member, though there's def something to it given the mother was from Ravanusa.

Given most males in the Carlisi clan were members and associates in Chicago, Buffalo, and even the Gambino Family I'm sure their mafia origins go back to Sicily.
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Am I correct in thinking that Steve Magaddino's cousin Peter J Magaddino (not Nino Magaddino's son) was still a Buffalo member in 1963?

And do we know if Gaspare Magaddino was a Buffalo member?
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chin_gigante wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:16 am Am I correct in thinking that Steve Magaddino's cousin Peter J Magaddino (not Nino Magaddino's son) was still a Buffalo member in 1963?

And do we know if Gaspare Magaddino was a Buffalo member?
You mean the Gaspare involved in the Bonanno faction during the Bonanno Split ? If so, no he was previously the boss of the Castellammare del Golfo cosca, and I don't think he was formally transfered in an American Family
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motorfab wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:43 am
chin_gigante wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:16 am Am I correct in thinking that Steve Magaddino's cousin Peter J Magaddino (not Nino Magaddino's son) was still a Buffalo member in 1963?

And do we know if Gaspare Magaddino was a Buffalo member?
You mean the Gaspare involved in the Bonanno faction during the Bonanno Split ? If so, no he was previously the boss of the Castellammare del Golfo cosca, and I don't think he was formally transfered in an American Family
Yes, thank you. Thats who I was referring to
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