Tough Tony Federici Died

[dave]

[aray22]

He had to have done decent with the ladies back then. No homo.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Thanks Dave.

So he had cancer.

[Ivan]

Some other short-timers to watch are the ones below, all at least 85 or above...

Pasquale Conte is also still with us, last time I checked. Will be 100 soon.

LCN is going to look a lot different 10 years from now with all the old time heavyweights that have passed within the last few years and will continue to.

To me this is the most important dynamic in the mob right now. Not just look different but be different in character. People who were born in 1940 are generally quite different from people born after 1970 or especially 1980. (1980 is in my opinion the real tipping point for a change from a kind of "hard" American to "soft" American, if that makes sense. Of course there are many exceptions to this.)

2050s and 2060s I imagine will be the real twilight of the American Cosa Nostra even in New York. Guys born in the 70s will be in their 70s and 80s then.

This will all be fascinating to watch.

Nice post. I think the older LCN generation, esp the immigrants, went through way more financial hardships than the Generation X wiseguys. The guys born from the 70’s-present more than likely come from a middle class background, at the very least.

Not just financial hardships, either. Completely different country before the 90s (I consider the 80s and maybe early 90s to be the "twilight" of the old America).

There will never be another John Gotti, because Gotti was born in 1940, and any new guy will not have been.

[slimshady_007]

Some other short-timers to watch are the ones below, all at least 85 or above...

Pasquale Conte is also still with us, last time I checked. Will be 100 soon.

LCN is going to look a lot different 10 years from now with all the old time heavyweights that have passed within the last few years and will continue to.

To me this is the most important dynamic in the mob right now. Not just look different but be different in character. People who were born in 1940 are generally quite different from people born after 1970 or especially 1980. (1980 is in my opinion the real tipping point for a change from a kind of "hard" American to "soft" American, if that makes sense. Of course there are many exceptions to this.)

2050s and 2060s I imagine will be the real twilight of the American Cosa Nostra even in New York. Guys born in the 70s will be in their 70s and 80s then.

This will all be fascinating to watch.

Nice post. I think the older LCN generation, esp the immigrants, went through way more financial hardships than the Generation X wiseguys. The guys born from the 70’s-present more than likely come from a middle class background, at the very least.

Not just financial hardships, either. Completely different country before the 90s (I consider the 80s and maybe early 90s to be the "twilight" of the old America).

There will never be another John Gotti, because Gotti was born in 1940, and any new guy will not have been.

U also have to take into consideration how vastly different the recruitment pool was back then. In the 50’s-mid 80’s, there were a lot more potential made members. Nowadays they’ll make almost anyone, depending on the family. Obviously that’s caused a lot of problems & lot of ratting.

[Buster123]

Thanks Dave.

So he had cancer.

Yes leukemia

[SonnyBlackstein]

These things come in three's.

[baldo]

Interesting his daughters married name is Gambino.

[TommyNoto]

Barney will likely be the last boss of bosses

I had my money on Maranzano.

Lol, in today’s time which is basically limited to him probably having final say

At some point it’s hard to not see the families consolidating with Columbo / Bonnano being absorbed due to attrition in 10-20 years . He would probably have final say on decisions like that

[Wiseguy]

Barney will likely be the last boss of bosses

I had my money on Maranzano.

Lol, in today’s time which is basically limited to him probably having final say

At some point it’s hard to not see the families consolidating with Columbo / Bonnano being absorbed due to attrition in 10-20 years . He would probably have final say on decisions like that

It's probably more likely a family would simply die out then be absorbed by another.

[Cheech]

Thanks Dave.

So he had cancer.

What gave it away?

[Cheech]

1976
- Dominick 'Quiet Dom' Cirillo (47y)
- Anthony 'Tough Tony' Federici (36y)
- Arthur 'Bam' Palumbo (70y) [Died 1978]
- Joseph Zito (40y) [Died 2020] [Sponsored by R. Palmieri]


made in '76 per JD (LCNBios)

[Rocco]

Some other short-timers to watch are the ones below, all at least 85 or above...

John Barbato
Pasquale DeLuca
Lawrence Dentico
Silvo DeVita
Alphonse Malangone

Vincent Beltempo
Anthony Ciccone
John D'Amico
Salvatore Franco

Vic Amuso
Joseph DiNapoli
Matthew Madonna

John DeRoss

Joseph DeSimone
Frank Porco
Anthony Rabito
Anthony Urso

Is Frank Porco related to Elliot Porco from Scarsdale NY? His into gambling and always listed as a Bonanno associate although always arrested for gambling Lucchese and Genovese gambling rings

[Ivan]

this forum is going to be an obituary extravaganza over the next 10~20 years

way more obits than indictments lol

[Wiseguy]

this forum is going to be an obituary extravaganza over the next 10~20 years

way more obits than indictments lol

Obviously something that both you and I find rather interesting.

For decades the NY families proved a lot of premature predictions wrong by not shrinking in size as much as some had thought. But I do think the next 10-20 years will be quite different. The attrition, long evident outside New York, will become more clear there.

I'm curious to see how the families will adapt, if they will merge crews and streamline operations, etc. As I've said before, I'm not of the opinion that any families will merge.