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Interesting connections and relationships:

Joseph Piranio dies
DallasMorningNews 1956Oct28 JTPiranio dies edit.jpg
Piranio Vallone wedding
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Boys Club
DallasMorningNews 1940Apr12 - Boys Club - Dragna Piranio Civello Musso edit.jpg
Ianni Vallone wedding
DallasMorningNews 1930Sep28 Ianni Vallone wedding edit.jpg
Piranio Lisotta wedding
DallasMorningNews 1932Feb5 Angelo Piranio - Lisotta wedding edit.jpg
Civello Tomenellie wedding. Notice that Charles Desimone is there.
DallasMorningNews 1929Dec17 Civello Tomenellie wedding - Musso Desimone edit.jpg
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Great stuff. Says Ross Musso was living in Houston at one point and mentions Rockford too.
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What's the boss lineage?
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Interesting that Civello said to the guys out East that Dallas should have more members than Houston and that they should be making more younger guys.
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cavita wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:09 pm Interesting that Civello said to the guys out East that Dallas should have more members than Houston and that they should be making more younger guys.
Good info. Almost seems to suggest that Dallas and Houston were different organizations, but then the informant apparently underscored that both groups were under the Piranios.
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When they were down to 3 members, I wonder if that applied only to Dallas or included Houston. The Houston and Galveston factions are more of a mystery -- we know some of the big names but not really much organizational info on them.
Chris Christie wrote: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:00 pm What's the boss lineage?
I've seen people say Michelangelo Gennaro (Corleone) was an early boss but I'm not sure that's substantiated. His first cousin was the Corleone boss in the 1920s and the Gennaros were close to the Dallas Family for generations plus I believe they intermarried with the Lanzas of SF. When I talked to Antiliar about it neither of us were aware of any definitive evidence, though.

This is the known lineage:

19?? - 1930 Carlo Piranio (d. 1930) - Corleone, Palermo
1930 - 1956 Joseph Piranio (became boss 1930; d. 1956, suicide) - Corleone, Palermo
1956 - 1970 Joseph Civello (d. 1970) - Salaparuta, Trapani
1970?-19?? Joseph Campisi

Wikipedia says Joseph Ianni was boss between 1970 and 1973 and cites a book I don't own, so not sure how concrete that is. Ianni was the suspected underboss so he could well have been a boss short-term before he died.
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Some more Texas info
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cavita wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:54 am Some more Texas info
Can't read them they are too small.

Also, would you like to collab on a 1963 Rockford chart?
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Chris Christie wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:00 am
cavita wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:54 am Some more Texas info
Can't read them they are too small.

Also, would you like to collab on a 1963 Rockford chart?
Yeah I can't seem to enlarge them unless I zoom in. A 1963 chart sounds awesome, I'm down!
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Looking at what Cavita posted, some names I wasn't familiar with + what I could find of their heritage:

Galveston
Vincenzo Bellomo - Corleone?
Anthony Cesari - Lucca, Tuscany
Constantine Demetrisene? - Hard to read his name, closest matches I can find are Greek
Joe Massa - Caccamo, Palermo
Joe Messina - 1900-1988, born in Lousiana, father might be "Guy" (Gaetano?)
August Simoncini - ?

Houston
Luke Saporito - Corleone, Palermo
Isidore Cavaretta - Castelvetrano, Trapani

Also Alfonso Attardi is listed in Houston. Gambino member who was first made in Sciacca.

Biagio Angelica on the list from Houston was ID'd by Chicago informant Teddy DeRose as a Genovese member based in TX. DeRose visited him and knew him well.
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was Luke Cortemeglia a member? An informant said that Cortemeglia and Joseph Ianni were very close to Civello. we know Ianni was a member, but havent heard of Cortemeglia until this document.
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B. wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:49 am Looking at what Cavita posted, some names I wasn't familiar with + what I could find of their heritage:

Galveston
Vincenzo Bellomo - Corleone?
Anthony Cesari - Lucca, Tuscany
Constantine Demetrisene? - Hard to read his name, closest matches I can find are Greek
Joe Massa - Caccamo, Palermo
Joe Messina - 1900-1988, born in Lousiana, father might be "Guy" (Gaetano?)
August Simoncini - ?

Houston
Luke Saporito - Corleone, Palermo
Isidore Cavaretta - Castelvetrano, Trapani

Also Alfonso Attardi is listed in Houston. Gambino member who was first made in Sciacca.

Biagio Angelica on the list from Houston was ID'd by Chicago informant Teddy DeRose as a Genovese member based in TX. DeRose visited him and knew him well.
I didn't see your post before but looking at it now has me interested. The fact Rockford had connections to the Dallas family is clear through Civella marrying a Rockford woman, but I also noticed something else. There was a highly respected guy in Rockford named Joseph "Jo-Jo" Saporito who owned Jo-Jo-'s Tap for many years. Saporito was born in Rockford in 1918 but his parents Leoluca Saporito and Lucia Bruscato were both born in Corleone, Sicily. FBI files kind of hint around that possibly Saporito traveled to Florida to inform boss Joe Zammuto about the arrest of capo Charles VInce in 1971 so maybe he was a messenger of sorts? His son Lou Saporito was also a member of the Latin Counts street gang and I wonder if Saporito was related to the Luke Saporito of the Houston LCN group.
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Excellent stuff. The Corleone background makes sense. Curious how many Corleonesi were in Rockford given Oliveri ended up there too.
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Sullycantwell wrote: Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:24 pm was Luke Cortemeglia a member? An informant said that Cortemeglia and Joseph Ianni were very close to Civello. we know Ianni was a member, but havent heard of Cortemeglia until this document. Screenshot 2023-01-11 6.23.01 PM.png
Also, he is from Corleone which fits with a lot of Dallas' members.
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Sorry for the spam, this just sent me on a rabbit hole, but it appears Luke Cortemeglia is a member.
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