Thanks for sharing, Chin. Here are some sections I noticed:
Q. And when Angelo was capo, did his brother, Jimmy, occupy
any position of authority in the crew?
A. He was an acting captain under Angelo.
Q. Was there any sort of term for that?
A. Angelo told me and my brother, Frank --
Q. I'm sorry, could you repeat that?
A. There was a time when we were sitting down with Angelo and
Jimmy LaPietra having a cup of coffee at a restaurant and
Angelo told my brother, "u frate," meaning my brother, "suto
capo," an acting captain under him.
^ The use of "sottocapo" within a crew was the same as acting capodecina.
^ Also maybe a dialect pronunciation like w/ "Consignu" [ph] and what Hegarty said about the admin ranks.
The following week, we knew where he lived and we
went there. He wasn't there. And some time later we found
out he ran back to Rockford.
Q. Did he resume criminal activities somewhere else?
A. In Rockford.
Q. Now, with respect to Frank and Joe from Rockford, after
you had your meeting, you and your brother had the meeting
with the two of them, at some point did they resume
becoming agents for your bookmaking business?
A. I don't believe, no. I think that was the end of it.
Q. And was there any sort of dispute over whether they
would continue working for or with your crew?
A. Yes, there was something set up with my brother, and
Angelo LaPietra, Jimmy Marcello and Sam Carlisi drove out
to Rockford one night to go sit down with the people out
there, somebody out there--who it was I don't know. I
didn't go--and to straighten out this whole thing with
Gumba and Frank and Joe.
Q. Did your brother tell you why it was Sam Carlisi and
James Marcello were part of this sit-down?
A. That they knew the guy from out that way, that's why
they went out there.
Q. The guy --
A. The guy --
Q. The counterpart?
A. Yeah, out there.
^ Carlisi and Marcello knew Frank and Joe's superiors in Rockford, probably members/leaders there. What stands out is Chicago didn't just bully Rockford into giving up their associates but respected Rockford's claim to them after the sitdown.
And we were in like this den, there was a pool table
there, and I don't remember who said it, but there was some
money in the guy's pocket, somebody said, "give it to the guys
that are not made," which was me, Chiaramonti and Marcello.
^ Interesting after this murder the made members allowed the associates to keep some of the victim's money.
A. I opened the car door. I don't know that I'm shot at this
time. My mind - my adrenaline is going and he's running, and
the only thing I could think of was what happens -- if I don't
do this, if he gets away, I'm dead, because I remember Jasper
Campezi and John Catuzo that messed up and they wound up in
the trunk a couple of months later. So what was going through
my mind is I have to catch him and I have to shoot him.
Q. Did you understand the rule to be if you don't complete
the murder, you may become the murdered?
A. Several times I heard the statement if this guy gets away,
meaning whatever we're doing, you'll take his place, which
means if this guy is supposed to get killed, then I'll take
his place and get killed in his place.
^ There are multiple times where he makes similar references, but he breaks it down here. Calabrese implied it was sort of a rule in Chicago that if you bungle a murder you get killed for it. We know this happened on rare occasions in other Families but it seems to have hung over members/associates' heads in Chicago. He said his brother Frank told him multiple times to "flatten" (kill) guys if they balked or made mistakes on hits.
Q. Did you have occasion to discuss with him the history of
organized crime?
A. Yeah, we talked about it. He seemed to know -- he was
very knowledgeable about a lot of things, he had heard stories
and stuff.
^ About Marcello knowing a lot about the history. Wish we knew the full substance of those conversations. Calabrese was lacking with the historic side.
A. Well, he had said that he would tell my brother that I
would in link with him rather than with my brother afterwards.
Q. And what did that mean?
A. That mean that I belong to his crew, be under him rather
than my brother.
Q. So if I have it right, Jimmy Marcello said you would be
under "him" meaning --
A. Jimmy.
Q. Jimmy Marcello s?
A. Right.
Q. And what from your brother's crew?
A. Right.
Q. Are you saying that the 26th Street Crew's territory was
wells and Halsted?
A. There was no boundary when it came to giving money or
booking and stuff, we had customers all over.
Q. All over everywhere, right?
A. Right.
Q. There were no boundaries when it came to killings or
extortion, were there?
A. No.
^ First part shows in Chicago a soldier could be transferred to another crew and the second part he makes it clear there weren't geographic boundaries for crews. We know three of LaPorte's soldiers requested a crew transfer decades earlier, so this is another example of it being discussed. Also tells us association between two guys in an area doesn't mean they're with the same crew.
Q. Well, you claim you were a made man and people respected
you for that and you liked that, didn't you?
A. No, I did not like the fact that people would -- would
look at me and respect me for that, because it was only a very
few people that knew.
^ Says "only a very few people" knew he was made. Plays into what we've discussed about the level of secrecy this Family had about membership.
