B. wrote: ↑Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:59 pm
CabriniGreen wrote: ↑Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:53 pm
Did you guys touch on Scarcella? From Canada?
Asked about Scarcella -- no clue, isn't even familiar with Scarcella as a Castellammarese surname or how he'd fit in.
Maybe it's a bullshit rumor that he's Castellemare. He always seemed like an independent to me....
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- Nino Mistretta (who visited Domingo) is the cousin of Baldo Amato and Amato used Mistretta's name as a "front" when setting up businesses, etc. Is of the opinion that Amato owns half of everything Mistretta does, wouldn't even be surprised if Amato owns part of Mistretta's property in Sicily.
Aah, he belongs to Baldo.
- In addition to Sal Montagna, there was a completely separate guy named Sal Montana who was close to Amato and Mistretta. This clarifies an FBI report I've seen that ID'd "Salvatore Montana" as an associate of Amato -- I previously assumed it was Montagna but it isn't.
These Sicilians.... you really do NEED nicknames, lol. Did we ever solve the Lorenzo Mannnio question? Just wondering.....
- In the 1990s CDG leader Mariano Asaro visited Sicilian Bonanno members in NYC and was accompanied by a doctor (Asaro himself is a dentist). If Asaro is related to Vincent Asaro it's very distant.
Does your friend know anything about a possible rivalry between Asaro and Ciccio Domingo?
- Knew Leonardo Coppola's family well and says Coppola was "definitely" a Bonanno member. JimmyB has a list of CDG Family members from decades past that IDs a Rocco Coppola as a member. This is likely a relative of Leonardo as his son is named Rocco -- maybe this older one is Leonardo's father.
Is he the guy that got killed with Galante?
- Thinks Baldo Amato was in Sal Montagna's ear during his time in Montreal. This is only speculation from someone who knew both of them well. Says Amato is very influential with these younger Sicilian guys and certainly still holds influence from prison.
It would make sense. Just like Cesare challenged Rastelli, the Sicilians seemingly challenge authority much more readily. Its like Nick Rizzuto seeking counsel from Buscetta on his affiliation, and Buscetta advising him to assert himself. Maybe it's a consequence of Sicily being so dense with mafia clans?
- Baldo Amato was also very close to Dino Calabro of the Colombo Family. Along with Calabro's relation to Gioacchino Calabro of the CDG Family (their fathers are cousins), Dino Calabro is related to other Bonanno and CDG members. Calabro was very "Americanized".
I find this actually kinda Interesting. Being very "Americanized", does Calabro identify with being.... I dunno..... Castellamarese? Does he think of himself as a Brooklyn guy with ancestry from Sicily? Or does he IDENTIFY as SICILIAN, like... Baldo does? How does Baldo see himself? Is Baldo Americanized now?
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- Anthony Pipitone was close to guys from the Patsy Conte crew of the Gambino Family and his family is from Carini. Domenico Cefalu from the Conte crew was called "Mimmo" by the Sicilians and the Bonanno Sicilians were close to the Conte crew. Most of the Conte associates mentioned were unfamiliar to me so not sure their names.
Sicilians? Passo Di Rigano people?
- Didn't know anything about Damiano Zummo. He did however know Enzo Morena who he said was a non-Sicilian.
- Doesn't think the Bonanno Sicilian faction are interested in large-scale drug trafficking since the 1980s. The key players made their money and moved on and the massive prison sentences aren't considered worth it.
You mean Catalano and his guys?
Thing is, after their refineries got shut down, they really didn't have the MEANS anymore. If they did, honestly I think Baldo gets his youngsters involved. We're talking late 80s, early 90s. Unless of course you think the Caruanas were Bonnano controlled. Do you consider the NY sicilians and Montreal sicilians..... different ......networks?
It's really interesting he doesn't think the Bonnano sicilians want anything to do with drugs, and doesn't know Zummo, yet Zummo got caught with cocaine at wholesale amounts, and went to Canada to forge a coke route with Morena, supplied by the Violis, with seemingly FULL SANCTION from the Bonnano family, even kinda formalized by the inclusion of the Violis at the ceremony. They even told Morena he answered specifically to the Bonannos alone, and HE was to be the courier.
From where was this direction coming from?
Also, I could see the Bonnanos using the trade to rebuild their Canadian network, much like the Inzerillos used it to rebuild their Sicilian network. Not because they are obsessed with drug money. All the families in Sicily seem to be using it to pay prisoners expenses.
- Doesn't seem to know anything about Francesco Palmeri but said collecting a debt from the 1980s like that is a "brokester move".
I hate to say, but that's how I viewed Montagnas extortion attempts.