From the ones we can confirm:PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 10:21 am Thanks for the info. So, there were like, what, 7-8 "original" crews before the crew splits? Terranova/Coppola/Lombardo crew, Greco crew, Pellegrino crew, Miranda crew (later split), Pisano/Angelina crew, Strollo/Eboli crew, NJ/Moretti crew (later split), Doto/Alo crew, Frasca crew (?), DelDuca crew.
This more or less correct? Any other pre-1960s crews left out? What were the pre-Frasca BK crews -- did Frasca inherit what had originally been, at least in part, Frankie Yale's crew? And the Coppola East Harlem crew was never split, right?
Terranova/Coppola/Lombardo
Luciano/Greco
Genovese/Strollo/Eboli
Pellegrino
Miranda
Moretti/Catena/Boiardo
Doto/Alo
We don't have enough info on the Brooklyn faction. Pisano took over only a portion of Yale's old regime, and for most of his reign, he focused more on his operations outside Brooklyn than inside the borough.
Thomas 'Bullets' Licata was a capo from Ozone Park who operated a Brooklyn crew in the late 1940s - early 1950s. His crew was part of the crew merge that made Frasca a capo, but it's unknown if Frasca was a capo before the merge. So as of the late 1940s - early 1950s, the Genovese had at least three Brooklyn regimes.
From what I can tell, the Genovese family always had at the very least 2 Brooklyn crews, with the crews getting merged or split periodically.
Thanks for the kind words, buddy.Chris Christie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:17 am I read your NJ crew write up. Amazing research done.
So Boiardo was in a dispute with Zwillman or the NJ Gen crew? If he was boss if his independent group do you think it was possible he was made captain immediately after being brought in? Sounds like he and Catena had an on and off again relationship while he and Miranda seemingly got along.
All of this is so interesting.
Boiardo was in dispute with both Zwillman and the Moretti Crew. His feud with Zwillman was public and violent, while his beef with Moretti was private and political for the most part.
Boiardo had a long-standing hatred for Zwillman because of their war during the Prohibition days. Boiardo had old ties to the Genovese and Chicago, dating back to the early 1920s, if not earlier.
The main reason for Boiardo's love-hate relationship with Catena was bitterness. He was bitter that Catena was very influential in the Genovese family. Since joining the Genovese, Catena's power continued to increase, while Boiardo's steadily declined. For what's worth, Catena trusted Boiardo more than he did DeCarlo. Catena was also Zwillman's right-hand man since the early 1930s.
No chance. A big reason why these old NJ gangsters like Boiardo, DeCarlo, Catena, etc., were skeptical of joining Cosa Nostra is that they knew they had to toe the line. Until the crew split in late 1961 - early 1962, there was only one huge Genovese NJ-based crew with an interrupted succession since the family's inception.do you think it was possible he was made captain immediately after being brought in?
We don't know too much about Boiardo and Miranda's relationship. It could've been similar to Boiardo's relationship with Catena or completely different. Although it's known that Miranda and Luciano were among Boiardo's contacts with the Genovese during the 1920s.Sounds like he and Catena had an on and off again relationship while he and Miranda seemingly got along.