Pretty crazy story ,NYC concrete Empire Transit Mix Inc

[joeycigars]

Story I heard which I have no idea if it’s true or not because I know nothing of these people is the Grandfather died last year and this weighed heavily on the grandson to whom he was very close. The Grandson asked his father for money to open a gym and was refused which somehow lead to the shooting.

Child Custody Dispute, even crazier , roids are a hellava drug ..

https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/portche ... ce/822898/

[Nick Prango]

Are big construction firms really still paying mob tax in 2021? What benefit would the construction companies get by doing that? Just curious, I thought this racket ended years ago.

There is this guy from my town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohrid_Municipality who emigrated in USA in year 2000. He lives in New Jersey. This guy made alot of money. He has small construction company. My colleague is his best friend since they were kids. He says that his friend is associated with LCN guys. When their are a public contracts out there to be bid on, LCN guys fix the bidding processes for this guy's company. My colleague says that this guy benefited from getting contracts. My colleague says that his friend told him that contracts are given by local New Jersey/New York govermnents, hence easy to manipulate through bribes by these LCN guys he is associated with. My colleague has been there in Jersey 4 times in a past 6 years since he got his green card staying at his friends house. My colleague says even saw with his own eyes these Italian American guys sitting around at his friend's job site doing nothing. If that is true LCN still has political connections in USA on a smaller scale. When they get into more white collar crimes they tend to rub shoulders with people that have contacts in the political world plus the 5 families still have a small presence in the unions. Most politicians are greedy scumbags.

[Wiseguy]

The construction industry lends itself to corruption and fraud. There are firms tied to organized crime. There are many others that are not. The largest GCs are gigantic corporations that employ “white collar” college educated PMs, execs, etc, and some of those execs engage in bribery, kickbacks. There was a huge case years back involving high level execs at Turner (one of the worlds bigger construction firms) and executives from Bloomberg’s internal facilities department. They managed to fleece Bloomberg out of millions. There was no allegation of mob involvement.

I don’t think it’s “controlled” by mob like it used to be. Back in the 70s/80s, Vinny DiNapoli and Fat Tony controlled the drywall industry. Castellano and his cronies controlled local 282. Different ballgame today. But there are still remnants.

The powers that be in the construction trades were successful at fending off similar industry regulations installed by the Giuliani administration in the waste hauling and wholesale food markets back in the 1990s. On top of that, to add to what you said, the very nature of the construction industry (how big and complex it is - excavation, trucking, demolition, concrete, carpentry, painting, electrical, etc., worth something approaching $50 billion a year; all the players involved at different levels - developers, contractors, subs, unions, etc.; as well as outdated laws like Wicks) enable corruption and fraud and is why the mob has more of a remaining presence in that industry than any other. Not to mention the fact that New York is an old city with limited geographic space. New construction is never-ending and, relatively speaking, not many places where you can build something new without something old coming down first. And you're right, we see a lot of cases of shady construction companies engaged in this or that that don't have any mob connection.

Selwyn Raab wrote a good article back in the early 2000's after the big Crea/Lucchese construction bust that talked about how, as a result of prosecutions, the mob had switched from bid-rigging on major projects ($50 million and up) to more sweetheart deals on smaller projects ($10 million or less). The mob has continued to have varying levels of influence in the industry but not the unchallenged dictatorial control that it once did. There are plenty of companies tied to organized crime. However, except for perhaps a few with longstanding ties, I'm just not sure there are many huge GC-level ones still being shaken down. For the last 20+ years or so, it seems the mob has operated more at the sub-contractor level where there is less of a profile. There's been many news reports over that time period of mobbed up companies getting public contracts.

The union connection has also changed. In the 1980s, there were 250,000 union workers in the construction trades. Today it's about 100,000. Back in 2000, 70% of all construction in New York City was done by union workers. By 2009, 50% of private construction was non-union. By 2020, it was up to 80%. Sometimes it's open shop, i.e. a mix of union and non-union. Commercial and public projects still go union obviously but costs are raised by 25% for that.

Unions in the building trades more susceptible to raiding by other unions than any other and one clear trend is the mob involvement in "rogue" unions like the Amalgamated Carpenters & Joiners Union; IUJAT Locals 124, 175, 621, 713; etc. And, while I'm not saying they are "mob controlled," the more "legitimate" unions to still keep an eye on would include ones like Carpenters Locals 157 and 926, LIUNA Locals 6A, 20, and 731; IBT Locals 282 and 456; and Steamfitters Local 638.

[queensnyer]

Was reading a story and collectively these are monster companies. This guy has to be one of Gambinos biggest $ maker with serious influence on major construction projects. Pretty impressive to be honest.

Larry Silverstein publicly vouched for Laqullia quality , that’s a wow
[/quote]

They have sick money. Reports of 250-400million in all. The family member I know buys supercars like we buy sneakers. Their actually a scabby cut corners company. Pay to play gets them on sites. Big ones. The father was banned from ground zero and other sites for paying off mobsters to go around union rules. Also had a illegal waste transfer station. They are personal piggy banks for a couple of diff families depending g on situation. But if you think about it. They are getting millions in contracts they wouldn't stand a chance of getting with all else being fair rules and bid wise. So 20-30k a month...who cares

[queensnyer]

these are family friends of mine. very wierd story. the father actually had a second family and named his sons dino and rocco like his original family. the other dino runs laquilla and is big in realestate. they kicked up, pay to play forever. once the hook is in you it doesnt come loose. the house actually has a floor where if you step on a certain tile, it triggers alarms

Was reading a story and collectively these are monster companies. This guy has to be one of Gambinos biggest $ maker with serious influence on major construction projects. Pretty impressive to be honest.

Larry Silverstein publicly vouched for Laqullia quality , that’s a wow

Also the guy I'm talking about basically abandoned his kids...financially their set. But he's not around. With the father having two families. Money makes people do weird things

[TSNYC]

The construction industry lends itself to corruption and fraud. There are firms tied to organized crime. There are many others that are not. The largest GCs are gigantic corporations that employ “white collar” college educated PMs, execs, etc, and some of those execs engage in bribery, kickbacks. There was a huge case years back involving high level execs at Turner (one of the worlds bigger construction firms) and executives from Bloomberg’s internal facilities department. They managed to fleece Bloomberg out of millions. There was no allegation of mob involvement.

I don’t think it’s “controlled” by mob like it used to be. Back in the 70s/80s, Vinny DiNapoli and Fat Tony controlled the drywall industry. Castellano and his cronies controlled local 282. Different ballgame today. But there are still remnants.

The powers that be in the construction trades were successful at fending off similar industry regulations installed by the Giuliani administration in the waste hauling and wholesale food markets back in the 1990s. On top of that, to add to what you said, the very nature of the construction industry (how big and complex it is - excavation, trucking, demolition, concrete, carpentry, painting, electrical, etc., worth something approaching $50 billion a year; all the players involved at different levels - developers, contractors, subs, unions, etc.; as well as outdated laws like Wicks) enable corruption and fraud and is why the mob has more of a remaining presence in that industry than any other. Not to mention the fact that New York is an old city with limited geographic space. New construction is never-ending and, relatively speaking, not many places where you can build something new without something old coming down first. And you're right, we see a lot of cases of shady construction companies engaged in this or that that don't have any mob connection.

Selwyn Raab wrote a good article back in the early 2000's after the big Crea/Lucchese construction bust that talked about how, as a result of prosecutions, the mob had switched from bid-rigging on major projects ($50 million and up) to more sweetheart deals on smaller projects ($10 million or less). The mob has continued to have varying levels of influence in the industry but not the unchallenged dictatorial control that it once did. There are plenty of companies tied to organized crime. However, except for perhaps a few with longstanding ties, I'm just not sure there are many huge GC-level ones still being shaken down. For the last 20+ years or so, it seems the mob has operated more at the sub-contractor level where there is less of a profile. There's been many news reports over that time period of mobbed up companies getting public contracts.

The union connection has also changed. In the 1980s, there were 250,000 union workers in the construction trades. Today it's about 100,000. Back in 2000, 70% of all construction in New York City was done by union workers. By 2009, 50% of private construction was non-union. By 2020, it was up to 80%. Sometimes it's open shop, i.e. a mix of union and non-union. Commercial and public projects still go union obviously but costs are raised by 25% for that.

Unions in the building trades more susceptible to raiding by other unions than any other and one clear trend is the mob involvement in "rogue" unions like the Amalgamated Carpenters & Joiners Union; IUJAT Locals 124, 175, 621, 713; etc. And, while I'm not saying they are "mob controlled," the more "legitimate" unions to still keep an eye on would include ones like Carpenters Locals 157 and 926, LIUNA Locals 6A, 20, and 731; IBT Locals 282 and 456; and Steamfitters Local 638.

Good rundown. Add operating engineers union locals too.

That Lucchese case you mentioned involved carpenters local 608 (which has since been converted into Local 157 which was the East Side local - 157 used to be called 257 before it’s leadership went to prison for extortion… lot of renaming)…

The construction unions are dying it seems. It’s rare I pass a construction site in manhattan that is a union job. It’s funny with nyc supposedly being so labor friendly, a massive project that seems to have gone on for 5 years on Park Row (across street from city hall) is a huge non union job.