Massino and Vitale

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Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:36 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:39 pm I can just imagine Massino mad asf saying “I put all that work in for this guy to flip on me? Fuck this I’m flipping too.”
I’m dead serious when I say that Massino realizing what his food situation was going to be for the next 20+ years probably played a role in his decision to cooperate. Massino loved eating food and he loved talking about food. On both occasions he was wired up before going to see Basciano, he ended up complaining about prison food for huge chunks of the conversation.
Don't forget that that fat fuck Coppa too. Those two whales would have thrown their mothers under a bus for an all you can eat buffett :D
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Rocco wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:09 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:36 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:39 pm I can just imagine Massino mad asf saying “I put all that work in for this guy to flip on me? Fuck this I’m flipping too.”
I’m dead serious when I say that Massino realizing what his food situation was going to be for the next 20+ years probably played a role in his decision to cooperate. Massino loved eating food and he loved talking about food. On both occasions he was wired up before going to see Basciano, he ended up complaining about prison food for huge chunks of the conversation.
Don't forget that that fat fuck Coppa too. Those two whales would have thrown their mothers under a bus for an all you can eat buffett :D
The surveillance pic of Massino and Coppa together walking out of a building that looks like it has a marble facade is actually the City Diner on Grand Ave in Maspeth. Despite the feds having to stake the place out for 7 hours in order to catch them coming out for that picture, there's a high probability that there was nothing illegitimate about their meeting and they were literally just getting something to eat together.

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newera_212 wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:36 pm
Rocco wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:09 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:36 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:39 pm I can just imagine Massino mad asf saying “I put all that work in for this guy to flip on me? Fuck this I’m flipping too.”
I’m dead serious when I say that Massino realizing what his food situation was going to be for the next 20+ years probably played a role in his decision to cooperate. Massino loved eating food and he loved talking about food. On both occasions he was wired up before going to see Basciano, he ended up complaining about prison food for huge chunks of the conversation.
Don't forget that that fat fuck Coppa too. Those two whales would have thrown their mothers under a bus for an all you can eat buffett :D
The surveillance pic of Massino and Coppa together walking out of a building that looks like it has a marble facade is actually the City Diner on Grand Ave in Maspeth. Despite the feds having to stake the place out for 7 hours in order to catch them coming out for that picture, there's a high probability that there was nothing illegitimate about their meeting and they were literally just getting something to eat together.

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Reminds me of one of those weight loss ads. Before…and way before.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:50 pm Reminds me of one of those weight loss ads. Before…and way before.
Which one's the before?

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Rocco wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:09 pm
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 9:36 pm
Shellackhead wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:39 pm I can just imagine Massino mad asf saying “I put all that work in for this guy to flip on me? Fuck this I’m flipping too.”
I’m dead serious when I say that Massino realizing what his food situation was going to be for the next 20+ years probably played a role in his decision to cooperate. Massino loved eating food and he loved talking about food. On both occasions he was wired up before going to see Basciano, he ended up complaining about prison food for huge chunks of the conversation.
Don't forget that that fat fuck Coppa too. Those two whales would have thrown their mothers under a bus for an all you can eat buffett :D


:lol: That’s great
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I recall Richard Cantarella’s testimony or debriefing notes mentioning that as soon as massino got out of jail he was asking a lot of questions about Vitale, his leadership. It seemed that Massino held a grudge or had major doubts about Vitale’s ability or trustworthiness. When you read this stuff you scratch your head that Massino allowed this situation to fester the way it did.

Cantarella said he liked both Massino and Vitale a lot, but in many ways felt in between them.
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couldnt been as bad as turncoats said. he was the underboss for 10yrs. 91 to 01. long tme when you think about it. underboss had a short shelf life since the 70tys
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think they just constanly talked shit about each other but in the end there brother inlaws. wives kids ect
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massino shouldnt have put his blood family in that position. i know there not blood but he married vitales sister and have kids so its blood.
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again sal was acting underboss from what 1988 he had a good run
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I recall reading that Massino was jealous of Vitale being afforded the nickname ‘Good-looking Sal’ or whatever it was. Basically, Vitale acted as Massino’s gopher, and since he brought him into the life and schooled him, I think Massino always looked down upon Sal. I think Vitale always trying to please Massino solidified Massino’s belief that Sal was weak subservient. Just my take.
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Sal Vitale seems like an interesting guy maybe b/c we know so little about him

I'd love it if he wrote a book
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Massino has to have major regrets for becoming an informant. He pretty much threw away whatever legacy and reputation he worked his whole life to build. His family has probably been ostracized from there lifelong friends and family, and for what? What did he actually get out of the deal? He’s spent the last 20 years in protective custody eating shitty prison food. He would have been better off just taking his sentence.
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And I guess the same could probably be said about casso. I think I heard somewhere he even had to do some time at Supermax in Colorado after becoming an informant. That’s crazy.
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Luca wrote: Tue Dec 14, 2021 11:31 am Massino has to have major regrets for becoming an informant. He pretty much threw away whatever legacy and reputation he worked his whole life to build. His family has probably been ostracized from there lifelong friends and family, and for what? What did he actually get out of the deal? He’s spent the last 20 years in protective custody eating shitty prison food. He would have been better off just taking his sentence.
It's been confirmed that he's out and living free. He was used in a few trials and got sentenced to time served. On one of the Podcast interviews Cantarella had, he said he knows Massino is out and living by himself somewhere but doesn't know how to get a hold of him. He said if he did, he'd invite Massino to come live with him - because he heard Massino has no contact with his family or essentially anyone else
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