5 Family's Making Ceremonies

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Thanks. The older guy was IDed only as Joe. Ralphie is most likely Ralph Balsamo.


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Just a guess.. Joe Pontoriero would've been around 63 or 64 then. He was named in court as an associate in January 2003 and was reported as a made member by 2005. Could be him.
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chin_gigante wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 pm The timeline I have then:

1987 (possibly different ceremonies):
Peter Chiodo
Frank Lastorino
George Zappola (possibly)
+ presumably others

1988:
Anthony Calagna
George Conte
Joseph D'Arco
Anthony Senter
Joseph Testa
+ 2 others

October/ November 1989 (5 made in total):
Joseph DeFede
Michael DeSantis
Frank Federico
Richard Pagliarulo
Frank Papagni (possibly 1988?)

March 1991:
Thomas Anzeulotto
Peter Del Cioppo
Santo Giampa
Patrick Testa
Rocco Vitulli

1991 (possibly above ceremony):
Patrick Dello Russo (made by July)
Gerald Del Sorbo
James Galione
Frank Giacobbe
Thomas Gelardo
Vincenzo Napoli
+ 5 other unidentified proposed members

October 1991:
Jody Calabrese
Gregory Cappello
Thomas D'Ambrosia
Frank Gioia Jr
Joseph Tortorello
It's also possible that Joseph Truncale was made in one of these earlier ceremonies. In August 2000, Thomas Carew told Bruce Mouw that Truncale "had been 'made' for nearly 20 years." So that would put his induction at somewhere in the early 1980s. However, it's important to note that Carew was only ever an associate, he only gave a rough estimate and there's conflicting information from member sources.

In November 1991, Al D'Arco told the FBI about a conversation he had with Casso where he described inducting Truncale as a "blunder" made by Amuso. We also know that Truncale was friends with Amuso, so that would also fit with the idea that he got made after Amuso became boss.

Truncale participated in the June 1989 murder of Red Calder, so timeline wise that could potentially suggest that he was made at the October/ November 1989 ceremony with DeSantis, Pagliarulo, DeFede and Federico. (That's if Papagni wasn't the fifth guy at that ceremony). Or, due to his friendship with Amuso, it's also possible he could've been made earlier with the likes of Chiodo and Lastorino. Personally, 1989 makes more sense to me, even though it's really stretching that "nearly 20 years" comment Carew made in 2000.
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Lucchese Family:

c. December 1977 - John Conti

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=p7B ... se&f=false
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Gambino family (per this week's Gang Land):

2007:
George Campos

2016:
James Ciaccia
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Possible induction date for Salvatore Montagna from Celulle 8002 vs Mafia:
Selon des documents de l’ambassade américaine, Montagna a été invité en 1998 à se joindre au clan Bonnano par Gerlando Sciascia.

According to US Embassy documents, Montagna was invited in 1998 to join the Bonanno clan by Gerlando Sciascia.
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chin_gigante wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:02 am Possible induction date for Salvatore Montagna from Celulle 8002 vs Mafia:
Selon des documents de l’ambassade américaine, Montagna a été invité en 1998 à se joindre au clan Bonnano par Gerlando Sciascia.

According to US Embassy documents, Montagna was invited in 1998 to join the Bonanno clan by Gerlando Sciascia.
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gohnjotti wrote: Sat May 11, 2019 4:45 am Reynold Maragni was inducted on March 9, 2008 (Palm Sunday). Acting underboss Richie Fusco, capo Benji Castellazzo, and Dennis DeLucia attended the ceremony. Gioeli couldn't attend because he believed he had a law enforcement tail.
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reynolds ran bath beach? that is a joke
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Lucchese family

2012:
Frank Pasqua Sr

Pennisi has confirmed that Pasqua was a member, according to Pasqua Jr's VladTV interview his father was made in 2012
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Did I hear this right? In his latest video, Pennisi mentioned that the house where his making ceremony took place was the house of the business partner of the cigar shop John Castellucci owns, the business partner is Jewish? Interesting because the house is not owned by a made guy but an associate.
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Not uncommon for ceremonies to take place at the homes or businesses of associates
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bronx wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:41 pm reynolds ran bath beach? that is a joke
that's what someone told me who is an idiot but has a Capo as an uncle-that's what he told me ten-ish yrs ago
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hello Corner,no one person runs any nabe..reynolds was chased out of n.y. for years..someone asked for huge favor for him to be allowed back in n.y. and be released to them..he was never a liked guy going back from when he was a kid, he burned many people going back..bet you a buck the guy that wanted him has a few regrets
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chin_gigante wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 pm The timeline I have then:

1987 (possibly different ceremonies):
Peter Chiodo
Frank Lastorino
George Zappola (possibly)
+ presumably others

1988:
Anthony Calagna
George Conte
Joseph D'Arco
Anthony Senter
Joseph Testa
+ 2 others

October/ November 1989 (5 made in total):
Joseph DeFede
Michael DeSantis
Frank Federico
Richard Pagliarulo
Frank Papagni (possibly 1988?)

March 1991:
Thomas Anzeulotto
Peter Del Cioppo
Santo Giampa
Patrick Testa
Rocco Vitulli

1991 (possibly above ceremony):
Patrick Dello Russo (made by July)
Gerald Del Sorbo
James Galione
Frank Giacobbe
Thomas Gelardo
Vincenzo Napoli
+ 5 other unidentified proposed members

October 1991:
Jody Calabrese
Gregory Cappello
Thomas D'Ambrosia
Frank Gioia Jr
Joseph Tortorello
In addition to Truncale, we can add New Jersey member Andrew Licari in here as well. D'Arco testified that Licari was made around 1990.

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Co ... bsq=licari
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