GL News 10/07/2021

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Re: GL News 10/07/2021

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Cheech wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:54 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:07 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:37 pm
Cheech wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:30 pm
mafiastudent wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 12:27 pm You guys need to go read the article again because Jerry clearly states in each of those pieces that what he wrote was based on the 121-page filing (which he stated) along with 500 plus pages of transcripts which I'm guessing were podcast transcripts. It's clear if you read the article that he didn't watch the podcasts - that he got the information from the filing.
No one here believes ole jerry is reading 100 pages of court docs let alone 500.
Bingo.
Just FYI in case some of you don't know how motions are laid out. There is usually and index at the beginning which highlights all the various points included in the filing. So, perhaps Jerry looked at the index and then read the parts he wanted. I don't have a copy of the filing or the transcripts so I have no idea what's in it except for the information Jerry provided in his column. Nor do I have the time to read any sort of court documents no matter whose they are as I'm knee-deep in various projects (I know you guys will comment on that so have at it)...so dream on, boys.

But what I do know is that the filing is on Pacer and accessible to anyone so you can see the index for yourself as I'm 99.9 percent sure that it's laid out that way as 99.9 percent of large motions are.
Hmmm. You seem to know a lot about what he probably did…
Well, as an intelligent, logical person if I was looking at a 121-page document with 500 pages of exhibits -- that's how I would do it so doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. But hey, stay on your fantasy train...cuz you seem to enjoy it. So enjoy.
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LoL ok, hun
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You think there are bookies who are taking this action right now? 4-1 Lucchese admin gets off?
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TommyGambino wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:23 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:56 am Thanks for the post.

Capeci is coming off as petty and vindictive. Coupled with his Delucia botch (no apology Jerry?) his 'journalistic' image looks, tarnished (to be nice).
This.
Agreed, this is really pathetic at this point.
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Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
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nizarsoccer wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:19 pm You think there are bookies who are taking this action right now? 4-1 Lucchese admin gets off?
I'd take that action. This case is a complete shit show. So you're telling me there's a chance? Bronx coming back. Ole vic Is about to have potential issues. I wouldn't of put Crea or Maddona thru that but that's just me.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
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Crea got life for the murder but i bet he got consecutive bids for the hospital shake down which sounded morw like crea loaned the guy money qho was incharge of building a hospital. Was crea found guilty of the other shit besides the murder?
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Not sure if I’m missing something but did all of the MBA and Button Man podcasts get taken down from YouTube?
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moneyman wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 8:20 am Not sure if I’m missing something but did all of the MBA and Button Man podcasts get taken down from YouTube?
Yup a new video is up explaining why
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MBA and button man podcast is done. They're removing all the videos and audio from online. Pennisi is going to continue with sit down news.
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Etna wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
I’m not gonna go all mafia student here but the evidence of Crea being involved in meldish murder is dubious at best. Pasqua who the government wouldn’t used and said was wrong said on vlad that Crea jr (sorry mafia student) told him that “dad” knows about it. Only other person was this but evangelista who claims londonio told him after londonio denied it to people he knew really well. If you wanna say ends justify the means he deserves it either way fine but that’s not the way the justice system is supposed to work and that’s very shaky evidence for a murder. Besides the fact as someone else mentioned he was identified as underboss so he’s culpable either way.
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Pete wrote: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:34 pm
Etna wrote: Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:37 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 9:50 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:01 pm
Tonyd621 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:48 pm
Etna wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:27 pm
Hired_Goonz wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:51 am Thanks for posting. I agree that the last item about Pennisi was pretty wack but the first one was intriguing. Could Crea and them really get their verdicts overturned because of these rats running their mouths on podcasts? I don't have a lot of sympathy for Crea and Madonna considering they're career criminals but that case against them was pretty foul. It doesn't seem likely to me that they'll actually get new trials out of this but I'm not a lawyer.
How? Crea ordered the death of Meldish - end of story. He's right where he belongs.
How do you know he ordered it?
How do you know he didn't?
No, but you said he did so I was asking how you knew that?
No, I don't have proof he did it - but I'm not a US Attorney - I'm a forum poster who checks on here in spare time.
I’m not gonna go all mafia student here but the evidence of Crea being involved in meldish murder is dubious at best. Pasqua who the government wouldn’t used and said was wrong said on vlad that Crea jr (sorry mafia student) told him that “dad” knows about it. Only other person was this but evangelista who claims londonio told him after londonio denied it to people he knew really well. If you wanna say ends justify the means he deserves it either way fine but that’s not the way the justice system is supposed to work and that’s very shaky evidence for a murder. Besides the fact as someone else mentioned he was identified as underboss so he’s culpable either way.
It's in the book what Pasqua said about "dad" knows about it. I don't know if you're saying I was disputing that but that is the book what he said. So, I just might be reading your comment wrong (the sorry mafia student is what's throwing me.)
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I still dont think it's going to be overturned and I find it hard to believe Maddona and Crea didnt know about it, but I think if anything overturns it's their current argument. It's a pretty big hole in the government's case, dont know if it's enough though.
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Did Capeci take down the Editors Note? what a smug fuck
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