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Are any of those other guys made? And why is the consigliere down in Florida, isn't he supposed to be the boss' right-hand man?
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Not one is mentioned as mob associate, made, affilate etc. You know if this was NYC it would be Cosa Nostra this Cosa Nostra that.
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TommyNoto wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:16 am I wonder who all the co conspirators are ? Looks like NJ guys

Seems a lot of $ to be made in FL if you have some cash, makes sense so many guys are down there plus less LE heat. I wonder if FL goes out of their way to not bring up the mob locally, similar to NJ and the ports. As long as they ain’t killing each other, not many seem to care.
Truglia was hit in the big Colombo case back when Anthony Russo, Mike Souza and Reynold Maragni fliipped. My guess is Truglia replaced Maragni down there. From his facebook, he looks to be a former steroid user and has a lot less hair from the previous arrest, that's for sure.
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Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:43 am Not one is mentioned as mob associate, made, affilate etc. You know if this was NYC it would be Cosa Nostra this Cosa Nostra that.
My guess on them not indictating this as anything LCN related is probably because this isn't a RICO indictment. Otherwise, maybe they would - not sure.
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I think as stupid as the Amato crew was for how they got caught they seemed to have some real juice and were stronger than the average crew that isn’t with the west side.
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Etna wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:47 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:43 am Not one is mentioned as mob associate, made, affilate etc. You know if this was NYC it would be Cosa Nostra this Cosa Nostra that.
My guess on them not indictating this as anything LCN related is probably because this isn't a RICO indictment. Otherwise, maybe they would - not sure.

It is probably because this case wasn't investigated by the OC squads. It was brought by a seperate unit.

The Fraud Section leads the Medicare Fraud Strike Force. Since its inception in March 2007, the Medicare Fraud Strike Force, which maintains 15 strike forces operating in 24 districts, has charged more than 4,200 defendants who have collectively billed the Medicare program for nearly $19 billion. In addition, the HHS Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, working in conjunction with the HHS-OIG, are taking steps to increase accountability and decrease the presence of fraudulent providers.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:17 pm
Etna wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:47 am
Tonyd621 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:43 am Not one is mentioned as mob associate, made, affilate etc. You know if this was NYC it would be Cosa Nostra this Cosa Nostra that.
My guess on them not indictating this as anything LCN related is probably because this isn't a RICO indictment. Otherwise, maybe they would - not sure.

It is probably because this case wasn't investigated by the OC squads. It was brought by a seperate unit.

The Fraud Section leads the Medicare Fraud Strike Force. Since its inception in March 2007, the Medicare Fraud Strike Force, which maintains 15 strike forces operating in 24 districts, has charged more than 4,200 defendants who have collectively billed the Medicare program for nearly $19 billion. In addition, the HHS Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, working in conjunction with the HHS-OIG, are taking steps to increase accountability and decrease the presence of fraudulent providers.
So, they cant be labeled as members of Cosa Nostra? Not being facetious.
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I don't know. But it doesn't look like it was an LCN investigation.


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I mean i think its good for them that label taints getting a fair judicial proceeding right off the bat. But i know the govt will use it any chance they get. So maybe it wasnt associated with CN members at all, it just had guys in it.
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Etna wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:47 amTruglia was hit in the big Colombo case back when Anthony Russo, Mike Souza and Reynold Maragni fliipped. My guess is Truglia replaced Maragni down there. From his facebook, he looks to be a former steroid user and has a lot less hair from the previous arrest, that's for sure.
Maragni was a captain who headed a crew based there before it was broken up. Truglia isn't even made. This case seems to be more the result of some of these guys living in Florida, and the companies being there (and Jersey), than a Florida-based Combo crew.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:48 pm
Etna wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:47 amTruglia was hit in the big Colombo case back when Anthony Russo, Mike Souza and Reynold Maragni fliipped. My guess is Truglia replaced Maragni down there. From his facebook, he looks to be a former steroid user and has a lot less hair from the previous arrest, that's for sure.
Maragni was a captain who headed a crew based there before it was broken up. Truglia isn't even made. This case seems to be more the result of some of these guys living in Florida, and the companies being there (and Jersey), than a Florida-based Combo crew.
He might not be made, but at the same token - we on this website only know what is broadcasted by the FBI at the time of the arrests. He very well could have been in recent years and we just don't know about it. At the same token, someone has to fill the slot from Maragni now that he is out of the picture and Truglia has been consistently involved with Farese for the last 10 years or so - if not longer.
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tommy farese is one of the most known guys in florida im sure if he wanted he could inducr a handfull of guys he had around him. hes been there since the 70tys and had his hand in everything with the persico blood family connection think his wife is allie boy sr. daughter. he had strip clubs and drugs loansharking. guy did alot of time
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Etna wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 8:47 am
TommyNoto wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:16 am I wonder who all the co conspirators are ? Looks like NJ guys

Seems a lot of $ to be made in FL if you have some cash, makes sense so many guys are down there plus less LE heat. I wonder if FL goes out of their way to not bring up the mob locally, similar to NJ and the ports. As long as they ain’t killing each other, not many seem to care.
Truglia was hit in the big Colombo case back when Anthony Russo, Mike Souza and Reynold Maragni fliipped. My guess is Truglia replaced Maragni down there. From his facebook, he looks to be a former steroid user and has a lot less hair from the previous arrest, that's for sure.
Was waiting for someone to mention Truglia, he was Farese's driver and right-hand back in 2012. He was the one convicted of money laundering while Farese walked free. If Truglia wasn't made after he more-or-less took the rap for Farese, then there must be other factors at work.
I would caution to guess that Truglia replaced Maragni, but he is definitely close to Farese and was a trusted guy who kept his mouth shut in his first pinch.
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This has nothing to do with the latest arrest. But in this video you can hear Carmine Persico speak briefly. I don't ever recall any recordings of his voice.

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Pmac2 wrote: Sun Apr 25, 2021 3:09 pm tommy farese is one of the most known guys in florida im sure if he wanted he could inducr a handfull of guys he had around him. hes been there since the 70tys and had his hand in everything with the persico blood family connection think his wife is allie boy sr. daughter. he had strip clubs and drugs loansharking. guy did alot of time
Yeah, your right Suzanne is a Persico- Alphonses daughter-Carmines brother. She was allegedly was caught on some wiretaps and charged, but Farese took a plea if the charges were dropped against her which is what happened in the late 90s when the govt entrapped him in my opinion in that particular case imo.
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