Fifteen Philadelphia Family Members and Associates Indicted

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Think angelo got made? It wouldn't surprise me. Hes a earner. They made a ex police officer before. More stands but the point
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Just read the indictment. Doesn’t seem too crazy. Could be a lot worse. Ten years at most for Dom.
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Anyone know why they would even mention that “making ceremony” in the indictment?

Was that the ceremony were they made some of Borgesi’s loyalists ?
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HoagieNose wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:20 pm Anyone know why they would even mention that “making ceremony” in the indictment?

Was that the ceremony were they made some of Borgesi’s loyalists ?
They just used the ceremony as another piece of evidence linking them to the racketeering enterprise.
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HoagieNose wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:19 pm Just read the indictment. Doesn’t seem too crazy. Could be a lot worse. Ten years at most for Dom.
Yeah the indictment is pretty flimsy on any violence and it just seems like the drug dealing is too low level or mid level to garner a big time sentence. I know Servidio just got slammed but he had previous drug charges and was caught on tape bragging about his criminality.

That being said, Dom obviously has to worry about any evidence linking him to the DiPietro hit. But the other thing I would be worried about is the number of guys in their 60, 70s, and 80s on this indictment. A 14 year sentence for one of them could basically be a life sentence. Plus all this happening right during the holidays....I guarantee the Feds are laying it on **thick** to get some of these guys to flip.
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Pmac2 wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:17 pm Think angelo got made? It wouldn't surprise me. Hes a earner. They made a ex police officer before. More stands but the point
Fat Ange was never an earner lol he was a brokester who lived with his Mother until he was in his late 30s.

He’s totally legit now with a restaurant he works at daily, grew up with Borgesi and they’ve been friends since they were kids. The guys still eat at his restaurant because they’re all childhood friends, but everyone from South Philly goes to Fat Ange’s restaurant in Jersey. The food is really good, I must say. Once you get past the cheesy decor in the place (Tommy Gun Lantern Lights) the food there is really good and it’s BYOB.

Even when Fat Ange was involved back in the 90s he was just a fringe guy who was a big joke who helped run a Sportsbook and loan operation while cooking at the clubhouse and providing laughs for the guys. He was never an earner or a major player and would never be made in a million years, you would have a better chance of seeing dinosaurs roam the Earth again than Fat Ange getting made lol.
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Do you think Dom and Stevie will get bail ?
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HoagieNose wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 5:51 pm Do you think Dom and Stevie will get bail ?
Yeah I’m curious about this too. Bail is usually only withheld when there is extreme violence attached to the indictment or if the accused are considered flight risks. I’m not sure either one of those apply here, but I also think if the Mazonne’s and Grande got bail, that news woulda leaked by now **shrugs**
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Had a closer look at the indictment. Came up with this in case anyone finds it difficult keeping track on all the Persons:
  • Person #1 is a loan shark living in New Jersey
  • Person #2 and Person #3 operate a sports betting business together (Person #2 lives in New Jersey and Person #3 lives in Philadelphia)
  • Person #4 is a person known to the grand jury who attended an August 2017 meeting with Victor DeLuca and SP (a loan shark customer), where SP was told that LCN was assuming his loan and he would have to make payments to Salvatore Mazzone
  • Person #5 is Anthony Persiano
- On 1 December 2015, Persiano got permission from Domenic Grande to extort Person #2

- Grande commended Persiano for touching base before extorting Person #2

- On 9 December, Persiano discussed this extortion with Kenneth Arabia

- Arabia noted that Daniel Castelli wanted to crack Person #2, and Persiano noted that would get him 5 to 10 years

- On 26 August 2016, Arabia and Persiano met with Person #1 and Person #2

- The purpose of this meeting was to discuss debts owed by Person #1 and to continue the attempt to extort Person #2

- On 2 September, Arabia, Persiano and other met with Persons #2 and #3 to extort them

- On 6 October, Grande, Persiano and Person #2 met to discuss the future of the bookmaking operation

- Grande gave Person #2 a phone number to call bets into the LCN bookmaking operation

- From November 2016 through April 2017, Persiano collected a total of $26,556 from Person #2 and delivered the cash to Grande (usually on the same day)

- Steven Mazzone, Grande, Arabia and Castelli were charged with extorting Person #1

- Mazzone, Grande and Arabia were charged with extorting Persons #2 and #3
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Great write-up Chin.

Good post Amershire-Ed. Many of their ages jumped out to me as well when I first read the indictment. Be lucky if none flip. Christmas timing part of the Fed plan too no doubt.
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chin_gigante wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:15 pm Had a closer look at the indictment. Came up with this in case anyone finds it difficult keeping track on all the Persons:
  • Person #1 is a loan shark living in New Jersey
  • Person #2 and Person #3 operate a sports betting business together (Person #2 lives in New Jersey and Person #3 lives in Philadelphia)
  • Person #4 is a person known to the grand jury who attended an August 2017 meeting with Victor DeLuca and SP (a loan shark customer), where SP was told that LCN was assuming his loan and he would have to make payments to Salvatore Mazzone
  • Person #5 is Anthony Persiano
- On 1 December 2015, Persiano got permission from Domenic Grande to extort Person #2

- Grande commended Persiano for touching base before extorting Person #2

- On 9 December, Persiano discussed this extortion with Kenneth Arabia

- Arabia noted that Daniel Castelli wanted to crack Person #2, and Persiano noted that would get him 5 to 10 years

- On 26 August 2016, Arabia and Persiano met with Person #1 and Person #2

- The purpose of this meeting was to discuss debts owed by Person #1 and to continue the attempt to extort Person #2

- On 2 September, Arabia, Persiano and other met with Persons #2 and #3 to extort them

- On 6 October, Grande, Persiano and Person #2 met to discuss the future of the bookmaking operation

- Grande gave Person #2 a phone number to call bets into the LCN bookmaking operation

- From November 2016 through April 2017, Persiano collected a total of $26,556 from Person #2 and delivered the cash to Grande (usually on the same day)

- Steven Mazzone, Grande, Arabia and Castelli were charged with extorting Person #1

- Mazzone, Grande and Arabia were charged with extorting Persons #2 and #3
Is Victor DeLuca related to the one with Harry the hunchback?
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That's what I was thinking didnt he kill scarfos first consigliere frank monte? It has to be his son or a nephew. That guy did alot of work then flipped
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Seems like everyone involved in Philadelphia LCN is in som way related to a rat.
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Watch Capeci take a month to write anything about this, lol.
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givememysocks wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 7:37 pm Watch Capeci take a month to write anything about this, lol.
Capeci doesn't write about Philly
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