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Re: General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

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Antiliar wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:09 pm Same document, but from the Angelo Jannotta file:

FBI file SU Angelo Jannotta p2 - list of members 1967Jul20.jpg

FBI file SU Angelo Jannotta p3 - list of members 1967Jul20.jpg
Yeah, I knew at least someone else's file had it. It's always kind of dumb to me that names are redacted on one and not on another. I guess it just comes down to what is referenced by one file clerk and what is referenced by another. I'm gonna assume that they don't really know anything about these guys (no blame, why should they?) but it's funny that a guy like Nicoletti who's been dead for almost 45 years is redacted on one.
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:45 am
Villain wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:28 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:13 pm
Villain wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 1:11 pm Just to make the situation regarding the 1940s North Side/Capone Outfit conflict even more interesting and confusing...according one of Phil D'Andrea's crew members, Sam Garafolo, in 1943 the same time when D'Andrea got imprisoned with the rest of the bosses, North Side capo Thomas Oneglia allegedly contributed $5,000 for D'Andrea's bond. This allegedly happened right before O'Neglia's demise. Garafolo made few mistakes by labeling O'Neglia as D'Andrea's successor of the Italo-American Union but later corrected himself by making again one small mistake, by saying that the real successor was Lawrence "Marino" which in fact was Imburgio (unless im wrong).

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Perhaps with the rest of top leadership under indictment, the dissident Sicilian faction saw this as their time to strike, and maybe wanted to get D'Andrea out hoping then that he would side with them (or perhaps at some point he was a sympathizer and then like Prio et al didn't back them when the shit hit the fan. Though I find this unlikely given D'Andrea's history).
D'Andrea was with Capone/Ricca from the beginning to the end. It seems that D'Andrea had close connections with all of the remnants/old members of the former Unione Siciliano which was later renamed into the Italo-American union and during the 30s D'Andrea was the president. Ricca and some of the fellas also became members...
Thanks for confirming, my impression of D'Andrea was that he was a strong Capone/Ricca loyalist, so I very much doubt that he'd be sympathetic to any plotting like that.
....also forgot to mention...in August 1932, one of the late Toto Loverde's former lieutenants Charles Argento was killed by two assassins while having a convo with DeGeorge and another fella. After the kill, DeGeorge and his Jewish companion came out the room alive. When the cops checked Argento's car, it was issued under the name of Anthony D'Andrea who in fact was Phil d'Andrea's brother
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Something to read about during your Saturday night or even Sunday afternoon.....some of the people who contributed regarding the bonds and later, early paroles of the Outfits bosses in the Hollywood extortion case from the 1940s. Lots of information and names are missing since this was the start of the investigation regarding the national scandal which involved both mobsters and politicians.

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Interesting to see the leadership roster for the former "Unione".
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This is information from a CI in 1965. It's about 60/40 in accuracy:
FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p1 1965.jpg
FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p2 1965.jpg
FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p3 1965.jpg
FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p4 1965.jpg
FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p5 1965.jpg
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Antiliar wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:31 pm This is information from a CI in 1965. It's about 60/40 in accuracy:

FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p1 1965.jpg

FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p2 1965.jpg

FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p3 1965.jpg

FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p4 1965.jpg

FBI File Su Samuel Battaglia - CI info p5 1965.jpg
"Amafa" is of course a phonetic rendering of Sicilian vernacular 'a Mafia.
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Lots of mistakes in these files...Ricca was never the head? Giancana wanted to step down for Daddono? Mooney closed down some of Daddonos ops because he was nutty
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PolackTony wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:30 pm Interesting to see the leadership roster for the former "Unione".
Whats your opinion on those D'Amico fellas? Any relations?
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Villain wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:22 am
PolackTony wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:30 pm Interesting to see the leadership roster for the former "Unione".
Whats your opinion on those D'Amico fellas? Any relations?
You mean any relation to Marco D'Amico? Doubtful. Marco's dad was from Frosinone, Lazio but these D'Amicos seem to have been Abruzzesi.
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PolackTony wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:48 am
Villain wrote: Sun Sep 27, 2020 12:22 am
PolackTony wrote: Sat Sep 26, 2020 5:30 pm Interesting to see the leadership roster for the former "Unione".
Whats your opinion on those D'Amico fellas? Any relations?
You mean any relation to Marco D'Amico? Doubtful. Marco's dad was from Frosinone, Lazio but these D'Amicos seem to have been Abruzzesi.
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Credit goes to Motorfab for this info.

If you look at the Hollywood extortion files, you will notice the Spingola family being connected to Paul Ricca and his family by living in the same neighborhood for quite a long time. It would be interesting if that same Spingola family was related to one Henry Spingola who in turn was killed back in 1926 and was labelled as brother-in-law of Angelo Genna. The point is that this might be "another" proof regarding the old time connection between Ricca and the Genna clan....
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PolackTony wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:45 am
Villain wrote: Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:28 am
PolackTony wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:13 pm Perhaps with the rest of top leadership under indictment, the dissident Sicilian faction saw this as their time to strike, and maybe wanted to get D'Andrea out hoping then that he would side with them (or perhaps at some point he was a sympathizer and then like Prio et al didn't back them when the shit hit the fan. Though I find this unlikely given D'Andrea's history).
D'Andrea was with Capone/Ricca from the beginning to the end. It seems that D'Andrea had close connections with all of the remnants/old members of the former Unione Siciliano which was later renamed into the Italo-American union and during the 30s D'Andrea was the president. Ricca and some of the fellas also became members...
Thanks for confirming, my impression of D'Andrea was that he was a strong Capone/Ricca loyalist, so I very much doubt that he'd be sympathetic to any plotting like that.
Not that he'd be sympathetic to a plot, but given his uncle had been an early boss and D'Andrea was probably made much earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if Phil D'Andrea helped bridge a gap of some kind between new and old factions.

The D'Andreas were from Valledolmo which wasn't too far from Ciminna, where Prio and Oneglia were from. Both Valledolmo and Ciminna would produce early bosses of the family.

I have these names from Ciminna:

Rosario Dispenza (early boss)
Giuseppe LaSpisa
Gaetano "Thomas" Oneglia
Rosario "Ross Prio" Priolo
Mariano Zagone (marital relation to Chicago mafiosi from Corleone)

Valledolmo and especially Ciminna are also near Caccamo and Termini Imerese which produced members.

Seems like Prio and for that matter Oneglia would have had their roots in this early faction and some of that may have carried over. D'Andrea could have helped smooth that relationship given the historic connections -- no idea myself, but given D'Andrea's place in the Unione and overall role in the family he would have been in a good position to smooth out the transition of power.
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B. wrote: Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:03 am Not that he'd be sympathetic to a plot, but given his uncle had been an early boss and D'Andrea was probably made much earlier, I wouldn't be surprised if Phil D'Andrea helped bridge a gap of some kind between new and old factions.

Seems like Prio and for that matter Oneglia would have had their roots in this early faction and some of that may have carried over. D'Andrea could have helped smooth that relationship given the historic connections -- no idea myself, but given D'Andrea's place in the Unione and overall role in the family he would have been in a good position to smooth out the transition of power.
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Besides attending sit downs with CN members, D'Andrea was also known for also having sit downs with non-Italians who were imported in Chicago usually for some "contract". He was also close with Guzik who in turn had all political connections in the First Ward and around Chicago.

As B already said, D'Andrea was possibly in position to smooth out the transition of power and maintain the peace to an extent. Although i believe that his "passion" was obviously the Capone faction. He even brought a gun during Capones trial....
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Looking at the Bagheresi faction that was influential through the 1920s.

The majority of these men were from Bagheria/Santa Flavia area and neighboring villages. Many of them have been ID'd as Chicago members and others were at least heavily connected/associated and I would consider them suspected members:

Giuseppe "Joe" Aiello
Giuseppe "Joe Pizza" Aiello
Francesco Aiello
Salvatore "Sam" Aiello
Giuseppe Caminiti
Carlo Caputo
Pietro "Ashcan Pete" Inserra (Altavilla Milicia)
Angelo LaMantia
Anthony LaMantia
Pietro LaMantia
Francesco LoGalbo
Michele Mineo
Agostino Morici
Antonio Morici
Filippo Morici
Philip Morreale
Pasquale Prestigiacomo
Giuseppe Priola (Ficarazzi)
Giuseppe Profaci (Villabate)
Antonio "Tony" Tornatore

- After Joe Aiello's murder, a number of the Bagheresi fled to the Milwaukee and Madison families which were made up of compaesani from Bagheria/Santa Flavia area. Sam Aiello later returned to Chicago and reported to the decina of Riberese Jim DiGeorge.

- I suspect when the Madison family disbanded in 1973 that most of the members reported to Chicago, as only two reported to Milwaukee and some of the remaining members were originally Chicago members. Maniaci reported that Chicago still maintained influence over Madison and prevented Milwaukee from controlling them throughout the 1960s.

- Not sure if LoGalbo was originally with Chicago, but following a conflict in the Milwaukee family in the 1950s, LoGalbo transferred to Chicago while still living in Milwaukee. He associated closely with fellow Wisconsin-based Chicago member Jim DiGeorge.

- Joseph Aiello had previously lived in Utica, where Domenico Aiello from Bagheria was a leader of the future Falcone crew and may have been its own Utica family before joining Buffalo. In addition to this connection, Stefano Magaddino supported Joe Aiello against Masseria/Capone in Chicago.

- The Morici brothers had their own ties to Milwaukee. Alberto Speciale, who arrived from Sicily to Milwaukee underboss Joe Gumina, was a bootlegger murdered in 1925 and had the Morici brothers of Chicago in his list of contacts. All of these men were from Bagheria.

- Early Chicago / Milwaukee member Joe Caminiti's mother was a LaMantia from Termini Imerese. I suspect some overlap between the LaMantias of Bagheria and those from Terimini given the proximity.

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Are there any missing names? (No doubt)

Missing connections? (No doubt)

How much of this element, like Sam Aiello, remained with Chicago after Capone, etc. took over the family?
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