Trafficante Crime Family
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Trafficante Crime Family
Here's an interesting subject the status of the trafficante crime
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Defunct. Only a handful of members still living, most in their 70's and 80's.
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Thank you for the info
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During what time was this a viable family at its peak ? Which of the five families was Trafficantes go to family? The Genovese?
What was their biggest downfall?
What was their biggest downfall?
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There are still families in “legit” business that have bloodlines to hitters from the old family
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1950s-1970sMikeymike12 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:38 pm During what time was this a viable family at its peak ? Which of the five families was Trafficantes go to family? The Genovese?
What was their biggest downfall?
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Attrition. it was a gradual dissolution. Was not law enforcement.
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Vince LoScalzo - 83
Frank Albano - 80
Antonio Amorelli - early 70s
Joe DiGerlando - early 80s
James Valenti - late 80s
Santo Carollo- 83/84
Some associates still around as well, but many of them are getting up in age as well.
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Scott, your the expert on Tampa. Can you tell me when they stopped being an organized crime group? I know they had that indictment about 20 years ago. Did that destroy the family? Can you positively say that there is no organization anymore?
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Were Lansky and Trafficante close? I believe both were big in Tampa.
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Wasn't Steve Raffa's crew fairly large at least in 2000 when he went down? He hung himself after he was indicted I believe - what happened to all the the other guys working for him?
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It wasn't law enforcement. Most of them by the mid 90s were involved in legitimate businesses and the crime stuff kind of wound down until the mid 2000s. Last concrete Trafficante family activity I have info on dates from about 2009 from an investigation that never went public.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:48 amScott, your the expert on Tampa. Can you tell me when they stopped being an organized crime group? I know they had that indictment about 20 years ago. Did that destroy the family? Can you positively say that there is no organization anymore?
The 2000 Raffa indictment took out the Miami faction for a bit but most everyone of those guys got out after a couple years. I believe most are still around South Florida (a few passed away).
I have not seen any evidence of an organization Even the Sheriff's Department intelligence guys came ot me a few times about updated info for their files. Really though there is no one in the FBI, FDLE, or local that are investigating traditional OC in the Tampa Bay area.
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Not really super close from what I hear. Rarely did business together post-Cuba. Lansky was not big in Tampa crime-wise, though his daughter and grandson do live here.SantoClaus wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:57 am Were Lansky and Trafficante close? I believe both were big in Tampa.
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What was the 2009 investigation over? Also, can you talk about who Loscalzo met after he was made boss? I heard he met with the Chicago Outfit and also New Orleans and Dallas? Can you get more In-depth about that?sdeitche wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:41 amIt wasn't law enforcement. Most of them by the mid 90s were involved in legitimate businesses and the crime stuff kind of wound down until the mid 2000s. Last concrete Trafficante family activity I have info on dates from about 2009 from an investigation that never went public.Patrickgold wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:48 amScott, your the expert on Tampa. Can you tell me when they stopped being an organized crime group? I know they had that indictment about 20 years ago. Did that destroy the family? Can you positively say that there is no organization anymore?
The 2000 Raffa indictment took out the Miami faction for a bit but most everyone of those guys got out after a couple years. I believe most are still around South Florida (a few passed away).
I have not seen any evidence of an organization Even the Sheriff's Department intelligence guys came ot me a few times about updated info for their files. Really though there is no one in the FBI, FDLE, or local that are investigating traditional OC in the Tampa Bay area.
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Family is dead. Has been for a longtime. Loscalzo has been retired for a longtime as well. I think all you need to do is read into FBI files on the Gambino Tampa crew that was running down there. They had an associate of the Trafficante's involved with them. I believe the Gambino's said they laid claim to whatever was left of the Trafficante's which was one or two guys there were just associates or relatives of dead Tampa members. But its dead as dead can be. There is no organized family with made members and a boss. Loscalzo is legit and has been for sometime. He was moving in the direction even before the Raffa indictments. Mamone was a Jersey Genovese Associate moved to Florida after DiGilio got clipped and got Made under Raffa somehow..and I am pretty sure after DiGilio got clipped his future with the Genovese crew was over. I am not sure if friends of the his from the Gambino's vouched for him with Raffa ..I have no idea how he wound up with Raffa down there. But it certainly seemed that Raffa's crew was east coast based from the getgo and not super tight with the old timers in Tampa (that were alive back then). There whole thing is weird down there the loose net connection with Loscalzo to the Broward County Raffa crew members from up north etc. Mamone was a Jersey guy who knew allot of NY guys . So when he was down there. You had NY lucchese guys meeting him, Bonanno NY guys, Gambino's ...I mean Mamone was really the Tampa familys point man down there with guys up north once he got made down there. Raffa and Loscalzo didn't know any of these made guys that Mamone knew from NJ and NY.