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Re: Current Chicago Players 2020

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I do miss the old Chicago wars.
By the way, any intersections between the Outfit and white gangs like the Royals, or white factions of Folk Nation?
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Villain wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:07 am This project is about the current state of the Outfit...the organization is obviously half dead but on the other hand, nobody is pumping up shit around here since I trust all of you guys...so fellas pls calm down before this erupts in the "long forgotten" Chicago dick measuring contests. Thanks in advance

So....Da Lucianos in River Grove...is it true that is run by some "zips" and what evidence we have about that claim?
Da Lucianos is NOT run by zips. Trust me on this!! The owner and his wife are from Sicily but they have no business connection to the Outfit besides serving them meals. Difronzo use act like he owned the place when he went there but they are legit people. Yes I know the owner and son got arrested and convicted for tax problems but the rumor is that the restaurant next door snitched them out because they were trying to get rid of competition. It was a complete miscarriage of justice the way the feds went after these hard working people and it was also a waste of tax payers money!!
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Patrickgold wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:58 am
Villain wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:07 am This project is about the current state of the Outfit...the organization is obviously half dead but on the other hand, nobody is pumping up shit around here since I trust all of you guys...so fellas pls calm down before this erupts in the "long forgotten" Chicago dick measuring contests. Thanks in advance

So....Da Lucianos in River Grove...is it true that is run by some "zips" and what evidence we have about that claim?
Da Lucianos is NOT run by zips. Trust me on this!! The owner and his wife are from Sicily but they have no business connection to the Outfit besides serving them meals. Difronzo use act like he owned the place when he went there but they are legit people. Yes I know the owner and son got arrested and convicted for tax problems but the rumor is that the restaurant next door snitched them out because they were trying to get rid of competition. It was a complete miscarriage of justice the way the feds went after these hard working people and it was also a waste of tax payers money!!
Thanks for explaining
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UTC wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:34 am I do miss the old Chicago wars.
By the way, any intersections between the Outfit and white gangs like the Royals, or white factions of Folk Nation?
There are well known connections between the Outfit and several (historically) white street gangs -- the GAC with the CNotes and the Cicero crew with the 12th st Players (e.g. Paulie Carparelli was/is a TSP). I've also always heard that the Outfit has some connection with the Insane Popes (Folks, not the Almighty Popes on the Southside). With the Royals I have to imagine that there were some connections over the years, though I've personally never heard of anything. Same with the Gaylords, who of course started as a an Italian youth SAC in the 50s on Erie and Noble (though there also seems to have been a contemporaneous Gaylords SAC on Taylor St, and people from Taylor St claim that chapter was the first).

While the SDs were never a mainly white organization, they have had both Latino and white members since their founding in the 50s. And of course the Chinatown Crew had connections to the SDs in Bridgeport (Bridgeport and Canaryville SD chapters were largely white back in the 90s at least, Irish and Italian etc).

Also, just to be clear. The Royals are Folks. They were among the first organizations to join the Folks in the 70s as they had close ties to the Black Gangster Disciples in the Illinois prison system. And there are no "white factions of the Folks Nation". The Folks Nation is an alliance formed in the prison system, not a gang with factions. Historically the Folks and Peoples alliances were managed by Boards of Directors of incarcerated high ranking members of constituent organizations in prisons like Statesville and Pontiac. So think of the Folks as like the LCN Commission, and the separate organizations that sit at the table of the Board as like distinct LCN families (it's my understanding that Larry Hoover modelled the Folks concept at least partly on the LCN). Prominent (historically or originally) majority white organizations that joined the Folks alliance include the Almighty SCRs, Insane CNotes, and Insane Popes.
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PolackTony wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 am
UTC wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:34 am I do miss the old Chicago wars.
By the way, any intersections between the Outfit and white gangs like the Royals, or white factions of Folk Nation?
There are well known connections between the Outfit and several (historically) white street gangs -- the GAC with the CNotes and the Cicero crew with the 12th st Players (e.g. Paulie Carparelli was/is a TSP). I've also always heard that the Outfit has some connection with the Insane Popes (Folks, not the Almighty Popes on the Southside). With the Royals I have to imagine that there were some connections over the years, though I've personally never heard of anything. Same with the Gaylords, who of course started as a an Italian youth SAC in the 50s on Erie and Noble (though there also seems to have been a contemporaneous Gaylords SAC on Taylor St, and people from Taylor St claim that chapter was the first).

While the SDs were never a mainly white organization, they have had both Latino and white members since their founding in the 50s. And of course the Chinatown Crew had connections to the SDs in Bridgeport (Bridgeport and Canaryville SD chapters were largely white back in the 90s at least, Irish and Italian etc).

Also, just to be clear. The Royals are Folks. They were among the first organizations to join the Folks in the 70s as they had close ties to the Black Gangster Disciples in the Illinois prison system. And there are no "white factions of the Folks Nation". The Folks Nation is an alliance formed in the prison system, not a gang with factions. Historically the Folks and Peoples alliances were managed by Boards of Directors of incarcerated high ranking members of constituent organizations in prisons like Statesville and Pontiac. So think of the Folks as like the LCN Commission, and the separate organizations that sit at the table of the Board as like distinct LCN families (it's my understanding that Larry Hoover modelled the Folks concept at least partly on the LCN). Prominent (historically or originally) majority white organizations that joined the Folks alliance include the Almighty SCRs, Insane CNotes, and Insane Popes.
Good stuff, thanks again.
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PolackTony wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 am
UTC wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:34 am I do miss the old Chicago wars.
By the way, any intersections between the Outfit and white gangs like the Royals, or white factions of Folk Nation?
There are well known connections between the Outfit and several (historically) white street gangs -- the GAC with the CNotes and the Cicero crew with the 12th st Players (e.g. Paulie Carparelli was/is a TSP). I've also always heard that the Outfit has some connection with the Insane Popes (Folks, not the Almighty Popes on the Southside). With the Royals I have to imagine that there were some connections over the years, though I've personally never heard of anything. Same with the Gaylords, who of course started as a an Italian youth SAC in the 50s on Erie and Noble (though there also seems to have been a contemporaneous Gaylords SAC on Taylor St, and people from Taylor St claim that chapter was the first).

While the SDs were never a mainly white organization, they have had both Latino and white members since their founding in the 50s. And of course the Chinatown Crew had connections to the SDs in Bridgeport (Bridgeport and Canaryville SD chapters were largely white back in the 90s at least, Irish and Italian etc).

Also, just to be clear. The Royals are Folks. They were among the first organizations to join the Folks in the 70s as they had close ties to the Black Gangster Disciples in the Illinois prison system. And there are no "white factions of the Folks Nation". The Folks Nation is an alliance formed in the prison system, not a gang with factions. Historically the Folks and Peoples alliances were managed by Boards of Directors of incarcerated high ranking members of constituent organizations in prisons like Statesville and Pontiac. So think of the Folks as like the LCN Commission, and the separate organizations that sit at the table of the Board as like distinct LCN families (it's my understanding that Larry Hoover modelled the Folks concept at least partly on the LCN). Prominent (historically or originally) majority white organizations that joined the Folks alliance include the Almighty SCRs, Insane CNotes, and Insane Popes.
My cousin was Hoovers last appointed Board Member in the street. Accurate info, good post...
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CabriniGreen wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:59 am
PolackTony wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:24 am
UTC wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:34 am I do miss the old Chicago wars.
By the way, any intersections between the Outfit and white gangs like the Royals, or white factions of Folk Nation?
There are well known connections between the Outfit and several (historically) white street gangs -- the GAC with the CNotes and the Cicero crew with the 12th st Players (e.g. Paulie Carparelli was/is a TSP). I've also always heard that the Outfit has some connection with the Insane Popes (Folks, not the Almighty Popes on the Southside). With the Royals I have to imagine that there were some connections over the years, though I've personally never heard of anything. Same with the Gaylords, who of course started as a an Italian youth SAC in the 50s on Erie and Noble (though there also seems to have been a contemporaneous Gaylords SAC on Taylor St, and people from Taylor St claim that chapter was the first).

While the SDs were never a mainly white organization, they have had both Latino and white members since their founding in the 50s. And of course the Chinatown Crew had connections to the SDs in Bridgeport (Bridgeport and Canaryville SD chapters were largely white back in the 90s at least, Irish and Italian etc).

Also, just to be clear. The Royals are Folks. They were among the first organizations to join the Folks in the 70s as they had close ties to the Black Gangster Disciples in the Illinois prison system. And there are no "white factions of the Folks Nation". The Folks Nation is an alliance formed in the prison system, not a gang with factions. Historically the Folks and Peoples alliances were managed by Boards of Directors of incarcerated high ranking members of constituent organizations in prisons like Statesville and Pontiac. So think of the Folks as like the LCN Commission, and the separate organizations that sit at the table of the Board as like distinct LCN families (it's my understanding that Larry Hoover modelled the Folks concept at least partly on the LCN). Prominent (historically or originally) majority white organizations that joined the Folks alliance include the Almighty SCRs, Insane CNotes, and Insane Popes.
My cousin was Hoovers last appointed Board Member in the street. Accurate info, good post...
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So besides Nick Roti, who else should we remove from the list? Also what about Sam Marcello, meaning some say he is legit while others say he is not....
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Patrickgold wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:54 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:39 pm I was living with the son of the whistle blower in college up at Purdue. About 2 hours south of Chi. Is there no activity in lake County Indiana anymore ? Also all the casinos going up they gotta be involved in these Atleast having loan sharks in towns like shelbyville indiana I’d think at the Indiana Grand Casino.
There is still activity in Lake County. Polekatz And Scores are both in Lake County and we all know about their Outfit connections. As for individual people. I can’t remember his name but his last name is Johnson. Not italian but His dad was heavily involved with the Outfit with prostitution. The son got busted over 10 years ago for something, I think prostitution but can’t recall. Anyone know who I’m talking about?
Both Polekatz and Scores are in Cook County.
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Jeff wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:40 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:54 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:39 pm I was living with the son of the whistle blower in college up at Purdue. About 2 hours south of Chi. Is there no activity in lake County Indiana anymore ? Also all the casinos going up they gotta be involved in these Atleast having loan sharks in towns like shelbyville indiana I’d think at the Indiana Grand Casino.
There is still activity in Lake County. Polekatz And Scores are both in Lake County and we all know about their Outfit connections. As for individual people. I can’t remember his name but his last name is Johnson. Not italian but His dad was heavily involved with the Outfit with prostitution. The son got busted over 10 years ago for something, I think prostitution but can’t recall. Anyone know who I’m talking about?
Both Polekatz and Scores are in Cook County.
There is a polekatz in Gary Indiana too. I just looked it up and it looks like Scores in Gary is no more.
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Patrickgold wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:15 pm
Jeff wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:40 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:54 pm
Mason_dixon wrote: Fri Jul 24, 2020 8:39 pm I was living with the son of the whistle blower in college up at Purdue. About 2 hours south of Chi. Is there no activity in lake County Indiana anymore ? Also all the casinos going up they gotta be involved in these Atleast having loan sharks in towns like shelbyville indiana I’d think at the Indiana Grand Casino.
There is still activity in Lake County. Polekatz And Scores are both in Lake County and we all know about their Outfit connections. As for individual people. I can’t remember his name but his last name is Johnson. Not italian but His dad was heavily involved with the Outfit with prostitution. The son got busted over 10 years ago for something, I think prostitution but can’t recall. Anyone know who I’m talking about?
Both Polekatz and Scores are in Cook County.
There is a polekatz in Gary Indiana too. I just looked it up and it looks like Scores in Gary is no more.
Gotcha, I thought you meant Lake County, IL. My bad.
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Not sure if this has been brought up but link to a post from 2019 which detailed members/associates of the Grand Ave Crew...could be used to supplement the list insuppose (particularly discussion on page 1):

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cavita wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:18 pm Almost forgot about higher level associate Nick Boscarino who was caught up in that Rosemont/Donald Stephens thing too... interestingly Boscarino owned some land and a restaurant in Rockford bat one time.
What restaurant did he own in Rockford?
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Ok, here are the names that should DEFINITELY be on the list because they are at least associates. These are guys that there is no question that they are affiliated. Some of them I was unsure of what crews they fall under because of the merging of some crews. Maybe someone can help me out with that. My apologies if the names were already listed or they have recently passed away.

Perry Mandera-associate, not sure which crew
Frank Caruso Jr-associate, Chinatown
Casey Szaflarski-associate, Chinatown
Joe Difronzo-associate/made?, EP, retired
Peter Difronzo-made, ep, retired
Paul Schiro-associate, Grand, retired/IP
Joe divita-associate, Arizona
Joseph Giacchino-associate, EP
Sam Cecola-associate, was rush st and Vegas,
Rick Rizzolo-associate, Vegas
Renato Di Silvestro-associate, Vegas, retired
Joey Cusumano-associate, Vegas, retired
Fred Portyla-associate, Grand, retired
Anthony Quaranta-associate, EP
Joseph Mangiamele-associate, Chinatown or Cicero
Sam Sarcinelli-associate, Chinatown or Cicero
Demitri Stavropoulos-associate, EP
Mike Swietek-associate, Grand
Paul Koroluk-associate, Grand
Donald Difrazio-associate, Chinatown
Fred Barbara-made, Chinatown
Robert DiDiana-associate, Taylor street-not sure what crew
Vito Salamone-associate, Cicero or Chinatown
Joe Salamone-associate, Cicero or Chinatown
Dominic Buttita-associate, Cicero?
Anthony Buttita-associate, Cicero?
Bruno Mancari-associate, Chinatown, deportes/inactive
William Daddono Jr-associate, EP
Nick Boscarino-associate, EP
Joseph Johnston-associate, NW Indiana
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Villain wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:20 am Thanks a 1000 times for all of the additional names Cavita and PolackTony and ill add them to the list, but you have to tell me which crews they belong to right?

@Polack, i already have one Tony Buttitta...any relations? Also do you have any good evidence that Nick wasnt related to the Roti clan? Dont get me wrong but many of their members from the past were never caught doing something illegal, except for being labeled in newspapers...

I also believe that Barbara and Daddono Jr are completely retired....what about that DiCaro fella? Any relations to the old DiCaros from the south side?
Anthony Buttita is the son of Dominic. They both have done prison time
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