John DiFronzo was a CI?

[Pete]

This has been brought up before, but Red Wemette just recently posted that he has an FBI doc that notes DiFronzo is a CI. Don't have any more details than that.

"Those are Fightin' Words". lol
Where did Red Wemette post that comment?

Mike Byrne's post of the Gangster Report article on Rainone. Says he saw it in 2002.

That he saw it in 2002 is highly improbable. If someone said they saw it after he died it would be more believable. If the feds let a civilian see a document with a CI’s real name on it who was still alive he would be fired and possibly brought up on charges. That is highly confidential information which would put someone’s life at risk

[SonnyBlackstein]

Who’s Red Wemette?

[SonnyBlackstein]

That he saw it in 2002 is highly improbable. If someone said they saw it after he died it would be more believable. If the feds let a civilian see a document with a CI’s real name on it who was still alive he would be fired and possibly brought up on charges. That is highly confidential information which would put someone’s life at risk

This makes sense.

[funkster]

This has been brought up before, but Red Wemette just recently posted that he has an FBI doc that notes DiFronzo is a CI. Don't have any more details than that.

"Those are Fightin' Words". lol
Where did Red Wemette post that comment?

Mike Byrne's post of the Gangster Report article on Rainone. Says he saw it in 2002.

That he saw it in 2002 is highly improbable. If someone said they saw it after he died it would be more believable. If the feds let a civilian see a document with a CI’s real name on it who was still alive he would be fired and possibly brought up on charges. That is highly confidential information which would put someone’s life at risk

Yep, that's my thought too. Given the level of the information, why allow someone like Wemette to have the information? I can think of no reason to give it to him? Obviously i dont know, but I see no reason for him to have a need to know and they wouldn't unless he did.

[Fughedaboutit]

This has been brought up before, but Red Wemette just recently posted that he has an FBI doc that notes DiFronzo is a CI. Don't have any more details than that.

post the document or dont post this thread

[Confederate]

This has been brought up before, but Red Wemette just recently posted that he has an FBI doc that notes DiFronzo is a CI. Don't have any more details than that.

"Those are Fightin' Words". lol
Where did Red Wemette post that comment?

Mike Byrne's post of the Gangster Report article on Rainone. Says he saw it in 2002.

Thanks for the further clarification. So, Red Wemette is talking about something he saw 18 years ago. But why would he see it in the first place?
Why would the Feds show him something of that nature? So, he's known about this for the last 18 years but now all of a sudden he is mentioning it?
Maybe I'm missing something but the whole story seems strange. No?

[SonnyBlackstein]

Who’s Red Wemette?

For anyone else who doesn’t know:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wemette

[funkster]

Yes, very much. I can see them doing it in furtherance of an investigation with a high level cooperator, Wemette..nah.

[Pete]

This has been brought up before, but Red Wemette just recently posted that he has an FBI doc that notes DiFronzo is a CI. Don't have any more details than that.

post the document or dont post this thread

Always count on you to bring something of substance to the discussion. Keep it up we would all be lost here without your guidance

[Pete]

Yes, very much. I can see them doing it in furtherance of an investigation with a high level cooperator, Wemette..nah.

The thing is generally they specifically don’t tell other cooperators because they don’t wanna influence what they say. For instance frank jr and Nick Calabrese were cooperating at the same time but neither of them knew that

[Pogo The Clown]

Yeah there was also that article from like 10 years ago were it was leaked that the Feds had two member informants in the Outfit with one of them being high ranking. The "high ranking" part pretty much narrows it down to a handful of candidates.


Pogo

For what it's worth, Joe Fosco called him a rat but it may have been libel as he said many things, including the allegation that DiFronzo liked to masturbate on his victims' corpses. He later deleted much of it and years later the two took a photo together when he was senile.

D'Andrea back in the day provided information in either Buffalo or Rochester before becoming Boss of Chicago. Accardo's had that rumor floating without basis, I suspected it somewhat because Roemer had an unhealthy obsession with him that shows in the books.

That sounds like something Mad Sam Destefano would during one of his torture sessions.


Pogo

[Hired_Goonz]

Didn't Nick Calabrese testify that DiFronzo was on the scene of the Spilotro murders? What I learned from a thread on this forum just recently was that when Frank Sr was getting recorded by his son he implicated DiFronzo in the planning of the murders and supposedly the making ceremony ruse was his idea. Now if Nick testified that he was there and they also had this tape, I know the Calabrese tape isn't direct corroboration but look we've seen guys get indicted in RICO cases for less. Jesus just look at the case Madonna and Crea got life for. That's a red flag for me that they didn't go hard on him because we know how aggressive they are. That being said I'm not sure I buy this Wemette guy. I have to think it would have been a major screwup for a guy like him to have seen a document that names a source like that let alone have it in his possession, wtf? But then again major screwups happen especially when the government is involved so who knows.

[Villain]

I also have my own suspicion regarding Wemettes claims and i think Pete is right, although they never indicted DiFronzo in the family secrets case, besides having few leads on him, and he even closed down his own crew and gave the Outfit to the Cicero/South mob...just something to think about

[Antiliar]

Who’s Red Wemette?

A former porn shop operator on Rush Street, friend of Joey Lombardo and his crew, then testified against Frank Schweihs and in the Family Secrets trial. He put out a book and now puts out videos and manages a Facebook group with Mike Byrne.

[Antiliar]

That he saw it in 2002 is highly improbable. If someone said they saw it after he died it would be more believable. If the feds let a civilian see a document with a CI’s real name on it who was still alive he would be fired and possibly brought up on charges. That is highly confidential information which would put someone’s life at risk

Improbable and unlikely don't tell us whether or not it actually happened. I know a couple guys who worked with the feds and were allowed to get copies of some otherwise confidential docs. I can't explain why this happened, only that it happened. My guess is that every now and then some rules are bent or they make exceptions. If I can, I'll see if I can follow up with him and see if he can recall the circumstances.