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Re: Fast risers

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Not sure if this is really in line with the spirit of the thread because he "only" had reached the position of captain as opposed to an admin spot, but I feel like Massino is an example of a guy who moved up real quick. Made in late 1977 and by mid to late 1981 he was pretty much the main power on the street wasn't he? I guess that's what can happen when you have a powerful mentor who trusts you.
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No one said our favorite! Gotti was a "acting capo" before being made 😂😂

Tony giacalone boss of Detroit in first post : was that a mistake??
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Michael and Sonny Franzese. Michael was fast cause his father was underboss but still an earner nonetheless.
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Lupara wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
Pogo The Clown wrote:
Eline2015 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 pm Alphonse Persico (colombo consigliere) made in 1975 in bufalino, transferred to Colombo’s. Shortly after that promoted to capo and then to csonsigliere

It was even faster than that. Made in 1971 and Consiglere by 1973.


The fastest one of all is of course Ralph Natale. Made in late 1994 and promoted to Boss the same day.
Natale was made in the mid 1970s by Carlo Gambino, Angelo Bruno and Lucky Luciano (who was present through an ouija bord). Others present during that ceremony were Russell Bufalino, Paolo Violi and Joe Di Maulo as well as Stefano Bontade and Salvatore Badalamenti, who came all the way from Sicily to pay their respects. Do your research.
I know this is trolling but did natale really claim this BS
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:07 pm No one said our favorite! Gotti was a "acting capo" before being made 😂😂

Tony giacalone boss of Detroit in first post : was that a mistake??
The Giacalone rank is "street boss". A slight distinction. The theory is that the top mob bosses in Detroit at the time, Joe Zerilli, Bill Tocco, Angelo Meli, John Priziola and Pete Licavoli used a "street boss" to handle day to day things while they kept away from that. That's its something Detroit has always used. That's the theory. Not sure I go along with the idea(I personally don't think Detroit had quite the strict hierarchy of other families, literally more of a "partnership"), but it gets referenced a lot.
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Adam wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:19 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:07 pm No one said our favorite! Gotti was a "acting capo" before being made 😂😂

Tony giacalone boss of Detroit in first post : was that a mistake??
The Giacalone rank is "street boss". A slight distinction. The theory is that the top mob bosses in Detroit at the time, Joe Zerilli, Bill Tocco, Angelo Meli, John Priziola and Pete Licavoli used a "street boss" to handle day to day things while they kept away from that. That's its something Detroit has always used. That's the theory. Not sure I go along with the idea(I personally don't think Detroit had quite the strict hierarchy of other families, literally more of a "partnership"), but it gets referenced a lot.
Adam, you live in Detroit just like me.

You think detroit still here?

I say yes
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:22 pm
Adam wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:19 pm
JeremyTheJew wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:07 pm No one said our favorite! Gotti was a "acting capo" before being made 😂😂

Tony giacalone boss of Detroit in first post : was that a mistake??
The Giacalone rank is "street boss". A slight distinction. The theory is that the top mob bosses in Detroit at the time, Joe Zerilli, Bill Tocco, Angelo Meli, John Priziola and Pete Licavoli used a "street boss" to handle day to day things while they kept away from that. That's its something Detroit has always used. That's the theory. Not sure I go along with the idea(I personally don't think Detroit had quite the strict hierarchy of other families, literally more of a "partnership"), but it gets referenced a lot.
Adam, you live in Detroit just like me.

You think detroit still here?

I say yes
Well, technically I've lived in East Lansing for most of the last 23 years. But personally, and I don't want this to turn into another long drawn out Detroit discussion, I'm kind of leaning towards there's some kind of organization if only for tradition's sake and so guys like Lapiana can sit back on their millions and probably not have to be involved in much of anything but can still say that he's the underboss. While a bunch of low level guys do low level things like bookmaking, card games, drugs, scams.....stuff like that. And ostensibly they have to do what the "bosses" say if there's some kind of problem. Just how I'm leaning at this point as to their status.
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Re: Fast risers

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Frank Paparatto was an Associate in October 2000 and in 2001 rose to Street Boss.

Frank D'Amato was an Associate in October 2000, was soon made and promoted to Capo and by April 2001 had risen to Acting Consigliere.

As we can see the DeCavalcante family was left decimated by the 1999 and 2000 indictments.


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Lupara wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
Pogo The Clown wrote:
Eline2015 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 pm Alphonse Persico (colombo consigliere) made in 1975 in bufalino, transferred to Colombo’s. Shortly after that promoted to capo and then to csonsigliere

It was even faster than that. Made in 1971 and Consiglere by 1973.


The fastest one of all is of course Ralph Natale. Made in late 1994 and promoted to Boss the same day.
Natale was made in the mid 1970s by Carlo Gambino, Angelo Bruno and Lucky Luciano (who was present through an ouija bord). Others present during that ceremony were Russell Bufalino, Paolo Violi and Joe Di Maulo as well as Stefano Bontade and Salvatore Badalamenti, who came all the way from Sicily to pay their respects. Do your research.
Lupara is that for real or is that a joke about Luciano being present through a ouija board. I never heard anything like that before where did that come from?
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Hes definitely joking, lol Natale was a bullshitter about his ceremony I think...
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Did no one really mention Barney bellomo or did I
Miss it? Made in his early-mid 20’s. Acting boss of the most powerful family in his early 30’s
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Lupara wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
Pogo The Clown wrote:
Eline2015 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 pm Alphonse Persico (colombo consigliere) made in 1975 in bufalino, transferred to Colombo’s. Shortly after that promoted to capo and then to csonsigliere

It was even faster than that. Made in 1971 and Consiglere by 1973.


The fastest one of all is of course Ralph Natale. Made in late 1994 and promoted to Boss the same day.
Natale was made in the mid 1970s by Carlo Gambino, Angelo Bruno and Lucky Luciano (who was present through an ouija bord). Others present during that ceremony were Russell Bufalino, Paolo Violi and Joe Di Maulo as well as Stefano Bontade and Salvatore Badalamenti, who came all the way from Sicily to pay their respects. Do your research.
I’ll also assume this is a joke because I believe he even testified Joey made him and he made a comment you could make yourself if you have the balls. Later on he said he was made by Bruno much earlier
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James Tartaglione was made a captain a year after his induction in the mid 80s.
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Extortion wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:24 pm
Lupara wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
Pogo The Clown wrote:
Eline2015 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 pm Alphonse Persico (colombo consigliere) made in 1975 in bufalino, transferred to Colombo’s. Shortly after that promoted to capo and then to csonsigliere

It was even faster than that. Made in 1971 and Consiglere by 1973.


The fastest one of all is of course Ralph Natale. Made in late 1994 and promoted to Boss the same day.
Natale was made in the mid 1970s by Carlo Gambino, Angelo Bruno and Lucky Luciano (who was present through an ouija bord). Others present during that ceremony were Russell Bufalino, Paolo Violi and Joe Di Maulo as well as Stefano Bontade and Salvatore Badalamenti, who came all the way from Sicily to pay their respects. Do your research.
I know this is trolling but did natale really claim this BS
He did claim that he was made by Angelo Bruno and Carlo Gambino at a secret ceremony in the 1970s. The rest of the comment is a joke.
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Re: RE: Re: Fast risers

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TallGuy19 wrote: Mon May 04, 2020 10:15 pm
Extortion wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 5:24 pm
Lupara wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:00 am
Pogo The Clown wrote:
Eline2015 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 9:52 pm Alphonse Persico (colombo consigliere) made in 1975 in bufalino, transferred to Colombo’s. Shortly after that promoted to capo and then to csonsigliere

It was even faster than that. Made in 1971 and Consiglere by 1973.


The fastest one of all is of course Ralph Natale. Made in late 1994 and promoted to Boss the same day.
Natale was made in the mid 1970s by Carlo Gambino, Angelo Bruno and Lucky Luciano (who was present through an ouija bord). Others present during that ceremony were Russell Bufalino, Paolo Violi and Joe Di Maulo as well as Stefano Bontade and Salvatore Badalamenti, who came all the way from Sicily to pay their respects. Do your research.
I know this is trolling but did natale really claim this BS
He did claim that he was made by Angelo Bruno and Carlo Gambino at a secret ceremony in the 1970s. The rest of the comment is a joke.
But didn’t he testify under oath Joey made him?
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