JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:41 am
Is she as big as the movies depicted?? Or basically another Frank Lucas.
It seems she was actually pretty big if she actually went and killed Pablo's guys that were even hiding in Barrio Pablio Escobar
I think so. They did a lot more killing and coke was bigger than heroin. I think Frank Lucas is a bit overblown. He was big, but in a smaller pond. The murders rate of the coke gangs in the 80's was insane.
I always assumed Nicky Barnes was the true power in NYC in that era, and that Lucas was just a loudmouth, but I’m by no means well versed in that era’s history.
I believe Frank Matthews was bigger than both of them. American Gangster was probably more Matthews' story than Frank in terms of the scale of his operation and dealings with the Italians. Frank may have well borrowed parts of Matthews' story for his own.
Lucas definitely borrowed from Matthew’s story; “He led a flamboyant lifestyle, with large sable mink coats, prime seats at major sporting events, luxury vehicles, and regular trips to Las Vegas where he was treated like a king” - Quote describing Frank Matthew.
Sounds exactly like that scene In American Gangster, where Lucas was wearing that massive Mink coat while attending that high profile boxing match, in I think Las Vegas. Lol
That was in ny inside the new madison square garden. Whoever said that quotation about matthews is exagerrating. Firstly he aint gonna expose himself to rivals. Not if you black and in THE BIZ. In 71 his name was already on the radar from a street pov and the cops. but he may as well been a ghost.This guy was low key as far as being out and about. Same with nicky who that movie you mention made him into a black john gotti seeking the cameras and that wasnt like him at all. Why you think the dea or the j. Edgar hoovers dont even got a surveiilance photo for frank matthews?? They just got a mugshot from 68. Its all bullshit brother. its hollywood. Frank lucas got a photo a him wearing the chinchila. Was he at the ali frazier fight? I dont know the answer to that question.
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:41 am
Is she as big as the movies depicted?? Or basically another Frank Lucas.
It seems she was actually pretty big if she actually went and killed Pablo's guys that were even hiding in Barrio Pablio Escobar
I think so. They did a lot more killing and coke was bigger than heroin. I think Frank Lucas is a bit overblown. He was big, but in a smaller pond. The murders rate of the coke gangs in the 80's was insane.
I always assumed Nicky Barnes was the true power in NYC in that era, and that Lucas was just a loudmouth, but I’m by no means well versed in that era’s history.
I believe Frank Matthews was bigger than both of them. American Gangster was probably more Matthews' story than Frank in terms of the scale of his operation and dealings with the Italians. Frank may have well borrowed parts of Matthews' story for his own.
Lucas definitely borrowed from Matthew’s story; “He led a flamboyant lifestyle, with large sable mink coats, prime seats at major sporting events, luxury vehicles, and regular trips to Las Vegas where he was treated like a king” - Quote describing Frank Matthew.
Sounds exactly like that scene In American Gangster, where Lucas was wearing that massive Mink coat while attending that high profile boxing match, in I think Las Vegas. Lol
That was in ny inside the new madison square garden. Whoever said that quotation about matthews is exagerrating. Firstly he aint gonna expose himself to rivals. Not if you black and in THE BIZ. In 71 his name was already on the radar from a street pov and the cops. but he may as well been a ghost.This guy was low key as far as being out and about. Same with nicky who that movie you mention made him into a black john gotti seeking the cameras and that wasnt like him at all. Why you think the dea or the j. Edgar hoovers dont even got a surveiilance photo for frank matthews?? They just got a mugshot from 68. Its all bullshit brother. its hollywood. Frank lucas got a photo a him wearing the chinchila. Was he at the ali frazier fight? I dont know the answer to that question.
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Ah that is actually an excellent point, Lucas’s coat was Chinchila, not even mink. I just never heard of Matthew’s before, so when I went to look it up after after that fella mentioned Lucas was borrowing some of his story, I saw the strong similarities and figured that makes sense. But not sure what match that was I thought it was in Vegas lmao, but going to that fight like that, sitting in those seats was the dumbest thing he ever did.
And I know, the way they portrayed Nicky Barnes was crazy, and who they got to play him was even crazier. Just a little fun fact, no one ever believes me. But there is this homeless man, who has an uncanning resemblance to Nicky Barnes, the guy even claims he’s him. I personally believe it, even though he he’s probably just crazy. Anyone know what happened to him? I know something vaguely about witness protection but any word about where he’s been?
It’s Blood alone, that moves the wheels of history
Peppermint wrote:Just a little fun fact, no one ever believes me. But there is this homeless man, who has an uncanning resemblance to Nicky Barnes, the guy even claims he’s him. I personally believe it, even though he he’s probably just crazy. Anyone know what happened to him? I know something vaguely about witness protection but any word about where he’s been?
I believe both Lucas and Barnes are dead. Lucas' was only recently made public by his family after having died years ago.
Matthews... Who knows what happened to him. Check out Al Profit's videos on youtube. Great channel.
Peppermint wrote:Just a little fun fact, no one ever believes me. But there is this homeless man, who has an uncanning resemblance to Nicky Barnes, the guy even claims he’s him. I personally believe it, even though he he’s probably just crazy. Anyone know what happened to him? I know something vaguely about witness protection but any word about where he’s been?
I believe both Lucas and Barnes are dead. Lucas' was only recently made public by his family after having died years ago.
Matthews... Who knows what happened to him. Check out Al Profit's videos on youtube. Great channel.
Btw, that 'fella' was me.
I just couldn’t remember how to spell your name, and didn’t want to look like an asshole trying to remember the spelling lmao
I figured as much, the last time I seen this guy I must have been 18 or 19 years old, around when American Gangster was released. Which was what introduced an old friend of mine and I to Nicky Barnes in the first place. Then low and behold, we meet this local homeless man, who we seen plenty of times but never gave much thought. Until random we hear him just babbling on about how he’s Nicky Barnes, my old friend actually engages him and tells us some stuff that make us kind of believe that this may actually be him. Wish I had a photo, because he looked just like him, like how he did in that picture of him with the beard and bald headed. Oddly enough, I haven’t seen him in like I said like 10 years, he used to roam between the 4 local 7/11’s probably dead. Nicky Barnes or not. But yeah, I haven’t seen this guy in forever, and like I said he’s probably just crazy but he was convincing to say the least. Just wondering if there is any truth to this, I guess I’ll never know.
It’s Blood alone, that moves the wheels of history
thesociety 89 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:44 pm
How could you bang her, she's nasty, don't care how good her coke is.
Probably the same reason young broads sleep with nasty looking rich old men.
They probably thought they’d get something from it, and if I remember correctly from one of the cocaine cowboy documentaries one of the people that actually did get intimate with her did get something out of it. Lots of cocaine at unheard of prices, to convert into crack for insane profits.
It’s Blood alone, that moves the wheels of history
Peppermint wrote:Just a little fun fact, no one ever believes me. But there is this homeless man, who has an uncanning resemblance to Nicky Barnes, the guy even claims he’s him. I personally believe it, even though he he’s probably just crazy. Anyone know what happened to him? I know something vaguely about witness protection but any word about where he’s been?
I believe both Lucas and Barnes are dead. Lucas' was only recently made public by his family after having died years ago.
Matthews... Who knows what happened to him. Check out Al Profit's videos on youtube. Great channel.
Btw, that 'fella' was me.
I just couldn’t remember how to spell your name, and didn’t want to look like an asshole trying to remember the spelling lmao
I figured as much, the last time I seen this guy I must have been 18 or 19 years old, around when American Gangster was released. Which was what introduced an old friend of mine and I to Nicky Barnes in the first place. Then low and behold, we meet this local homeless man, who we seen plenty of times but never gave much thought. Until random we hear him just babbling on about how he’s Nicky Barnes, my old friend actually engages him and tells us some stuff that make us kind of believe that this may actually be him. Wish I had a photo, because he looked just like him, like how he did in that picture of him with the beard and bald headed. Oddly enough, I haven’t seen him in like I said like 10 years, he used to roam between the 4 local 7/11’s probably dead. Nicky Barnes or not. But yeah, I haven’t seen this guy in forever, and like I said he’s probably just crazy but he was convincing to say the least. Just wondering if there is any truth to this, I guess I’ll never know.
No... It deff was not him lol.
So u must be around my age?? I'm 32.
There are records of Barnes and he has some lower budget documentaries whwre he gives comments on. Him and Lucas death actually came out back to back. It's kinda like they kept trying to one up eachother after the movie came out.
I really don't know why they made the movie about Lucas over barnes...??
