Vknicks wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:24 pm
I’m not anyone else under a different name , Parents were both from east Harlem , Lived in Country club my whole life and hung out on Morris Park you here things meet people I’m not saying I have some inside scoop and idk if as a group they called them selves the purple gang but thts how everyone else referred to them at the time so if they did call themselves that or not doesn’t matter they were the purple gang, I would like to see the evidence that there is no purple gang ? Because it seems overwhelming accepted that there was one
Burden a proof is on you pally. You can start with trying to find ONE case where a drug network called the PGN got busted. And thats bullshit that "people" called them purple gang. On the street? In the early 1970s? Who is everyone else? Drug addicts? Gimme a break brother. ?Not trying a be an asshole. Only evidence is it being name dropped. War on drugs was a scam pal. Dea came out with a bogus report in '76. It named names. Thats the origin a the purple gang. Thats where the name comes from. Late 60s early 70s is when drugs was as big as the probition times with the booze. Biggest probition outfit was purple gang. detroit. DEA had launched and was looking to make a splash over the J. Edgar Hoovers. dea was trying to connect t he dots and prove shit was orgamized in the drug world. One boss. You cant do it because drugs is like sex, bookmaking and numbers. Anyody can get in on the action and maintain. A 90 year old chink can spread her legs and not kick up. I seen it. Nobody in a fucking bar is reading a dea assassment report. I never seen that. How they talking about pgn when they dont appear in a tabloid until son a sam starts shooting up blondies in parked cars? It aint real pal. The guys they mention was real. But an organization? Nah. Just like there was no westies or a all mick mafia ever that worked under one flag. It was every man or gang for themselves. Today its the "irish mob" and any irisher who was taking bets slinging dope robbing banks lending money and planting a coop with some whore is a member. Its a racket for the real mafia. True crime authors. The tj english is the capo of all capos. carl siFAKis is the sottocapo. Its aint real pally. It aint real.
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Lucchese farm team in East Harlem right? "Pleasant Avenue bunch" in Carlito's Way are based on them.
No sir.
Pleasant avenue bunch = 116th street crew.
This comes straight from the horses mouth. (Judge eddie torres).
JIGGS
Shit.. Pete Amadeso walks into my club just like that? Bullshit. There's an angle here. Pete's a made guy, his uncle is a heavy hitter with the Pleasant Avenue bunch, what's he doing here?
I always wondered about this. I read both books and seen the films. The books seemed very grounded in reality, even though its all fictionalized I get the sense Judge Torres was familiar with the things he went into, likely from a combination of growing up in that neighborhood as well as his time spent in the legal system and later as a judge.
Any other info on this subject I'm all ears.
Chrissy! Come sta?
Eddie Torres was a 111 street guy. Him, the Charlie 'Hook' Candelaria, Joe Conzo (his old man named consolo was italian but married a porto rican broad) hector bonet all grew up in the same environment. They was PRs. The Mau Mau chaplains vs. the redwings brought PRs and italians together on 110 street for stickball supremacy. The most dangerous block in the united states. In the shadows a the park palace. Which also brought out the moolinyan. They knew how to dance everything. In this scene you got the street guys. Tony Gorilla. A PR. Benny One Eye. A PR. Buster. A Black. Nick candelario the manager a the park palace. Who was A PR AND a Black. All these guys were "connected." First with the daily (policy racket). Jose 'Bumpy" Fernandez. Big numbers guy. Butchie Harris. Another one who also did book. Allie boy Ross. Daily and shy. Mr. BIGGS Bisogno. Drugs. Trigger Jim Coppola. His older brother was you know who. Loanshark, sportsbook, the daily. Vincent Correale. Button. All these guys are "116th Street." FIRST Avenue. That's who eddie torres and the younger PRs is surrounded by and exposed to hanging out a communal spaces. The basement at St. Lucys. The pool hall on 109. Union settlement on 104. The front of democratic club on 116 where if you wanted to make some cash you get a hanky or towel some shoe polish and you waited around until the MEN walked out. The goodfellas. At the time Pleasant Avenue was not associaated with smack. It was actually the safest stretch in the United states. Why? You know why. Fast forward. 1969. Smack is everywhere. Harlem is a heroin supermarket. PLEASANT AVENUE is now notorious. It replaces 110th street and Lexington avenue heading west as ground zero for junk. The san giorgio social club, the depalma club, tony ferro louie domes. The press is onto them. It pushes Pleasant avenue into the limelight. Its from that notoriety that the phony "pleasant avenue mob" comes out. The same way that you know L.C.N. is a goverment name. Theres no LA. Its just COSA NOSTRA. But its part of our everyday language. What people are familiar with. When a kid says Pleasant Avenue and the topic is the mob you automatically know its the cosa nostra in harlem. Tony ferro. Buster Ardiro. Fat Tony. Gribbs. THEN. in the 1950s Eddie worked as a clerk under carmine desapio. It was carmine who got him the gig as assistant d.a. His first big case was THE CAPEMAN murders. From there he continued to grind until he got upped. Some square citizens felt he was too friendly with the mob elite. Whats his name? With the rings? Luchesse family? Big time captain? Him. And of course Spanish Raymond. The character Carlito briganti is a combo of different people. Joe bumpy, spanish ray, one eye, tony gorilla. The speech (according to michael corleone) is all judge edwin torres. Pete amodeso is supposed to be one of the pellegrino kids. Related to the actor and owner of RAOs restaurant who has the same last name and died the other day. The pellegrino Im thinking of experimented with being a wiseguy but was'nt good at it. Always in and out of the can. He was friendly with Tony Angelet who everybody thought was italian but was a PR. Just like "carlito briganti." Pellegrinos uncle was Joe Stretch (Strachi). For me AFTER HOURS by judge edwin torres was as real as it got. He really captured the atmosphere. As good as the movie was the books is better. And for the historical record the carlitos way part 2 movie was a piece a shit. Its supposed to be based on "afterhours." The BEFORE the carlito gets out the slam ( "which did'nt take no 30 years like YOUR honor said but only FIVE!) Ha!) Seems like they gave it t o some Hollywood jew and revised it. Total bullshit. Anyways them guys who grew up with the judge I mentioned? Those PRs? Charlie hook and them? They come out in the movie. Not with al pacino but the other bullshit. The part 2. A bar scene. Small cameo.
bert wrote: ↑Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:22 pm
Joe Bumpy I heard of. I did not know he was a Harlem guy, I thought he was from downtown.
He had a daily in the area way back when. Thats what I know. Where he lived I cant tell you because I dont know the answer to that question. Him and some irish fella had a game. Cant remember the name. Anyways they ALL kicked up. And they all layed off to the italian harlem kings. Pre-1960s they did. Later on whoever was still alive that was working a daily in the 50s became distro for the H. It dont seem like there was ever a rule not to get involved in junk. Drugs had a uptick after "urban renewal" by robert moses. Who knows why? i know why. It was them fucking hippies, beatnicks and bagel babies spreading there legs to the moolinyan to do there part for the revolution against the goverment that never came. Btw I heard joe fernandez aka bumps passed away during or just before flower power became a thing. LBJ was prez.
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Lucchese farm team in East Harlem right? "Pleasant Avenue bunch" in Carlito's Way are based on them.
No sir.
Pleasant avenue bunch = 116th street crew.
This comes straight from the horses mouth. (Judge eddie torres).
JIGGS
Shit.. Pete Amadeso walks into my club just like that? Bullshit. There's an angle here. Pete's a made guy, his uncle is a heavy hitter with the Pleasant Avenue bunch, what's he doing here?
I always wondered about this. I read both books and seen the films. The books seemed very grounded in reality, even though its all fictionalized I get the sense Judge Torres was familiar with the things he went into, likely from a combination of growing up in that neighborhood as well as his time spent in the legal system and later as a judge.
Any other info on this subject I'm all ears.
same. I find the purple bunch rather fascinating. whether they were called purple or not. our friend pizza seemed to think there was. not saying he was right on everything. he wasn't. and I enjoy reading Jiggs' posts as well. either way that whole East Harlem bunch is very interesting imo
I meant the basis' for Judge Torres' book such as the Pleasant Ave crew etc. If you never read that book I do recommend. I don't know anything about the Purple Gang other than that it involved a heroin ring in the 70's with names like Matty Madonna involved.
Jiggs? Needs to watch his ethnic slurs against the Irish but aside from that he's okay. I remember him from RD, for awhile he just stopped posting. I knew he was on the elderly side and feared that he passed. I'm glad that he's still around and that he's here.
Fuck irish gangsterBb. They make me sick. Thats where that cuntlapper sonny rimjobstein came out of. Who vetted him to be in this group helen keller???
You know chris as I recall it was you guys that left the real deal. Am I wrong? I had a stroke in 2010 and again in 2012. But I do remember coming back in between all a that shit and noticing most a the guys I knew was gone. I also remember there was a private message from philly waiting for me. Something about fuck amoruso he needs to be strangled with jumper cables + lit on fire and we was all on this new forum. I never did check out the board until what? 5 years? 7 years later? i had to get right healthwise. After I got settled here (I aint in harlem no more) I went back to real deal only to find they wasnt open no more. The books was closed for good. The link address philly sent me was gone too! I went on the bing and search for mafia discussion group. Those mick bastards came up. i did another search and came across this newsgroup. When they opened the books for me I saw Rocco, Bruno, Ray Ray, the Wiseguy, Pogo, and some other guys I remember. I figured this must be the place Philly said to come to. Wouldnt you know it I got a pm from philly under a different handle. Like you you wasnt chris christie on the real deal. Was you? You was somebody else. Atari5200 or something. lol. Anyway he confirmed this was the place. i miss the old gang. I was sorry to learn that tommy passed away. That there was bad blood with whats her face. The one married to a sicilian connected guy. That kid who dressed like kermit the frog and the tommy gun. R.I.P. Old maggio the crazy motherfucker. And believe it or not DAN. He was a crazy cocksucker. Always saying the mob was being persecuted lol. BUT he wasnt bullshitting about them gambling joints on the west side. He knew that much to give me the impression he wasnt no gangsterbb fan boy. Sorry for changing the subject.
Only purple gang was the one in detroit and in the movies.
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Lucchese farm team in East Harlem right? "Pleasant Avenue bunch" in Carlito's Way are based on them.
No sir.
Pleasant avenue bunch = 116th street crew.
This comes straight from the horses mouth. (Judge eddie torres).
JIGGS
Shit.. Pete Amadeso walks into my club just like that? Bullshit. There's an angle here. Pete's a made guy, his uncle is a heavy hitter with the Pleasant Avenue bunch, what's he doing here?
I always wondered about this. I read both books and seen the films. The books seemed very grounded in reality, even though its all fictionalized I get the sense Judge Torres was familiar with the things he went into, likely from a combination of growing up in that neighborhood as well as his time spent in the legal system and later as a judge.
Any other info on this subject I'm all ears.
same. I find the purple bunch rather fascinating. whether they were called purple or not. our friend pizza seemed to think there was. not saying he was right on everything. he wasn't. and I enjoy reading Jiggs' posts as well. either way that whole East Harlem bunch is very interesting imo
I meant the basis' for Judge Torres' book such as the Pleasant Ave crew etc. If you never read that book I do recommend. I don't know anything about the Purple Gang other than that it involved a heroin ring in the 70's with names like Matty Madonna involved.
Jiggs? Needs to watch his ethnic slurs against the Irish but aside from that he's okay. I remember him from RD, for awhile he just stopped posting. I knew he was on the elderly side and feared that he passed. I'm glad that he's still around and that he's here.
Fuck irish gangsterBb. They make me sick. Thats where that cuntlapper sonny rimjobstein came out of. Who vetted him to be in this group helen keller???
You know chris as I recall it was you guys that left the real deal. Am I wrong? I had a stroke in 2010 and again in 2012. But I do remember coming back in between all a that shit and noticing most a the guys I knew was gone. I also remember there was a private message from philly waiting for me. Something about fuck amoruso he needs to be strangled with jumper cables + lit on fire and we was all on this new forum. I never did check out the board until what? 5 years? 7 years later? i had to get right healthwise. After I got settled here (I aint in harlem no more) I went back to real deal only to find they wasnt open no more. The books was closed for good. The link address philly sent me was gone too! I went on the bing and search for mafia discussion group. Those mick bastards came up. i did another search and came across this newsgroup. When they opened the books for me I saw Rocco, Bruno, Ray Ray, the Wiseguy, Pogo, and some other guys I remember. I figured this must be the place Philly said to come to. Wouldnt you know it I got a pm from philly under a different handle. Like you you wasnt chris christie on the real deal. Was you? You was somebody else. Atari5200 or something. lol. Anyway he confirmed this was the place. i miss the old gang. I was sorry to learn that tommy passed away. That there was bad blood with whats her face. The one married to a sicilian connected guy. That kid who dressed like kermit the frog and the tommy gun. R.I.P. Old maggio the crazy motherfucker. And believe it or not DAN. He was a crazy cocksucker. Always saying the mob was being persecuted lol. BUT he wasnt bullshitting about them gambling joints on the west side. He knew that much to give me the impression he wasnt no gangsterbb fan boy. Sorry for changing the subject.
Only purple gang was the one in detroit and in the movies.
JIGGS
Yeah, everyone has their own story why and how they got here. I came over because David banned everybody good and I began posting here more than on there so when I remembered to check that board months later I discovered I had been banned. No big loss. This forum absorbed old-school Real Deal's spirit pre-David days.
And yes, Dan will always be undoubtedly the Man. Remember Dan's Italian American Civil Rights League? "I don't cinco so. Real Americans celebrate real American and Italian holidays."
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Lucchese farm team in East Harlem right? "Pleasant Avenue bunch" in Carlito's Way are based on them.
No sir.
Pleasant avenue bunch = 116th street crew.
This comes straight from the horses mouth. (Judge eddie torres).
JIGGS
Shit.. Pete Amadeso walks into my club just like that? Bullshit. There's an angle here. Pete's a made guy, his uncle is a heavy hitter with the Pleasant Avenue bunch, what's he doing here?
I always wondered about this. I read both books and seen the films. The books seemed very grounded in reality, even though its all fictionalized I get the sense Judge Torres was familiar with the things he went into, likely from a combination of growing up in that neighborhood as well as his time spent in the legal system and later as a judge.
Any other info on this subject I'm all ears.
Chrissy! Come sta?
Eddie Torres was a 111 street guy. Him, the Charlie 'Hook' Candelaria, Joe Conzo (his old man named consolo was italian but married a porto rican broad) hector bonet all grew up in the same environment. They was PRs. The Mau Mau chaplains vs. the redwings brought PRs and italians together on 110 street for stickball supremacy. The most dangerous block in the united states. In the shadows a the park palace. Which also brought out the moolinyan. They knew how to dance everything. In this scene you got the street guys. Tony Gorilla. A PR. Benny One Eye. A PR. Buster. A Black. Nick candelario the manager a the park palace. Who was A PR AND a Black. All these guys were "connected." First with the daily (policy racket). Jose 'Bumpy" Fernandez. Big numbers guy. Butchie Harris. Another one who also did book. Allie boy Ross. Daily and shy. Mr. BIGGS Bisogno. Drugs. Trigger Jim Coppola. His older brother was you know who. Loanshark, sportsbook, the daily. Vincent Correale. Button. All these guys are "116th Street." FIRST Avenue. That's who eddie torres and the younger PRs is surrounded by and exposed to hanging out a communal spaces. The basement at St. Lucys. The pool hall on 109. Union settlement on 104. The front of democratic club on 116 where if you wanted to make some cash you get a hanky or towel some shoe polish and you waited around until the MEN walked out. The goodfellas. At the time Pleasant Avenue was not associaated with smack. It was actually the safest stretch in the United states. Why? You know why. Fast forward. 1969. Smack is everywhere. Harlem is a heroin supermarket. PLEASANT AVENUE is now notorious. It replaces 110th street and Lexington avenue heading west as ground zero for junk. The san giorgio social club, the depalma club, tony ferro louie domes. The press is onto them. It pushes Pleasant avenue into the limelight. Its from that notoriety that the phony "pleasant avenue mob" comes out. The same way that you know L.C.N. is a goverment name. Theres no LA. Its just COSA NOSTRA. But its part of our everyday language. What people are familiar with. When a kid says Pleasant Avenue and the topic is the mob you automatically know its the cosa nostra in harlem. Tony ferro. Buster Ardiro. Fat Tony. Gribbs. THEN. in the 1950s Eddie worked as a clerk under carmine desapio. It was carmine who got him the gig as assistant d.a. His first big case was THE CAPEMAN murders. From there he continued to grind until he got upped. Some square citizens felt he was too friendly with the mob elite. Whats his name? With the rings? Luchesse family? Big time captain? Him. And of course Spanish Raymond. The character Carlito briganti is a combo of different people. Joe bumpy, spanish ray, one eye, tony gorilla. The speech (according to michael corleone) is all judge edwin torres. Pete amodeso is supposed to be one of the pellegrino kids. Related to the actor and owner of RAOs restaurant who has the same last name and died the other day. The pellegrino Im thinking of experimented with being a wiseguy but was'nt good at it. Always in and out of the can. He was friendly with Tony Angelet who everybody thought was italian but was a PR. Just like "carlito briganti." Pellegrinos uncle was Joe Stretch (Strachi). For me AFTER HOURS by judge edwin torres was as real as it got. He really captured the atmosphere. As good as the movie was the books is better. And for the historical record the carlitos way part 2 movie was a piece a shit. Its supposed to be based on "afterhours." The BEFORE the carlito gets out the slam ( "which did'nt take no 30 years like YOUR honor said but only FIVE!) Ha!) Seems like they gave it t o some Hollywood jew and revised it. Total bullshit. Anyways them guys who grew up with the judge I mentioned? Those PRs? Charlie hook and them? They come out in the movie. Not with al pacino but the other bullshit. The part 2. A bar scene. Small cameo.
JIGGS
I enjoyed the first book the most, the second I also enjoyed but I had already seen the Pacino film which covered the same ground. The sequel/prequel was... all over the place. I don't know how else to put it. Like the Itals there's an ensemble of New York Rican actors who alternate between playings cops and gangsters across several films, which I can get into if I try not and connect it to the Pacino film. Jason Hernandez trying to imitate Pacino trying to imitate a New York Rican didn't turn out too well. Luis Guzman played a totally different part but I'll take what I can get.
It's almost like Mobsters with Christian Slater, so bad it's fun to watch. "Hey come with us Charley, we're all just one big happy pasta eating family." - Tommy Reina, lowlife bootlegger from the bronx.
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 3:51 pm
Lucchese farm team in East Harlem right? "Pleasant Avenue bunch" in Carlito's Way are based on them.
No sir.
Pleasant avenue bunch = 116th street crew.
This comes straight from the horses mouth. (Judge eddie torres).
JIGGS
Shit.. Pete Amadeso walks into my club just like that? Bullshit. There's an angle here. Pete's a made guy, his uncle is a heavy hitter with the Pleasant Avenue bunch, what's he doing here?
I always wondered about this. I read both books and seen the films. The books seemed very grounded in reality, even though its all fictionalized I get the sense Judge Torres was familiar with the things he went into, likely from a combination of growing up in that neighborhood as well as his time spent in the legal system and later as a judge.
Any other info on this subject I'm all ears.
same. I find the purple bunch rather fascinating. whether they were called purple or not. our friend pizza seemed to think there was. not saying he was right on everything. he wasn't. and I enjoy reading Jiggs' posts as well. either way that whole East Harlem bunch is very interesting imo
I meant the basis' for Judge Torres' book such as the Pleasant Ave crew etc. If you never read that book I do recommend. I don't know anything about the Purple Gang other than that it involved a heroin ring in the 70's with names like Matty Madonna involved.
Jiggs? Needs to watch his ethnic slurs against the Irish but aside from that he's okay. I remember him from RD, for awhile he just stopped posting. I knew he was on the elderly side and feared that he passed. I'm glad that he's still around and that he's here.
Fuck irish gangsterBb. They make me sick. Thats where that cuntlapper sonny rimjobstein came out of. Who vetted him to be in this group helen keller???
You know chris as I recall it was you guys that left the real deal. Am I wrong? I had a stroke in 2010 and again in 2012. But I do remember coming back in between all a that shit and noticing most a the guys I knew was gone. I also remember there was a private message from philly waiting for me. Something about fuck amoruso he needs to be strangled with jumper cables + lit on fire and we was all on this new forum. I never did check out the board until what? 5 years? 7 years later? i had to get right healthwise. After I got settled here (I aint in harlem no more) I went back to real deal only to find they wasnt open no more. The books was closed for good. The link address philly sent me was gone too! I went on the bing and search for mafia discussion group. Those mick bastards came up. i did another search and came across this newsgroup. When they opened the books for me I saw Rocco, Bruno, Ray Ray, the Wiseguy, Pogo, and some other guys I remember. I figured this must be the place Philly said to come to. Wouldnt you know it I got a pm from philly under a different handle. Like you you wasnt chris christie on the real deal. Was you? You was somebody else. Atari5200 or something. lol. Anyway he confirmed this was the place. i miss the old gang. I was sorry to learn that tommy passed away. That there was bad blood with whats her face. The one married to a sicilian connected guy. That kid who dressed like kermit the frog and the tommy gun. R.I.P. Old maggio the crazy motherfucker. And believe it or not DAN. He was a crazy cocksucker. Always saying the mob was being persecuted lol. BUT he wasnt bullshitting about them gambling joints on the west side. He knew that much to give me the impression he wasnt no gangsterbb fan boy. Sorry for changing the subject.
Only purple gang was the one in detroit and in the movies.
JIGGS
Yeah, everyone has their own story why and how they got here. I came over because David banned everybody good and I began posting here more than on there so when I remembered to check that board months later I discovered I had been banned. No big loss. This forum absorbed old-school Real Deal's spirit pre-David days.
And yes, Dan will always be undoubtedly the Man. Remember Dan's Italian American Civil Rights League? "I don't cinco so. Real Americans celebrate real American and Italian holidays."
I've been on boards since 95- the old text board on Alan Munns site Ravennas Free John Gotti site, Porellos Americanmafia, Boston Mafia, Real Deal, Gangster BB this one, and probably a few others I forgot.
As good as exchanging info is, the crazy and unhinged posters were always the real treat!!
Agree Jiggs is a one man late night show I love it. Great posts and shit makes me laugh.
Didnt know Tommy passed I just figured he got wise to Davids bullshit and said fuck it. RIP.
Chris every fucking time you post I think its Dan at first because of the avatar. Great guy he should join.
This board is great but I do miss the good battles between everybody that was comedy gold. Fuck I wish I saved those old graveyards from Real Deal shit was hilarious.
"Do you think Ralph is a little weird about women?"
Funniest shit was when someone (I wanna say JohnnyDel or Mafioso) got George Anastasia to join the old board.
First post Anastasia sees is Maggio saying he fucked a kid in the ass or some shit like that. Anastasia never came back.
Charlie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:30 am
Funniest shit was when someone (I wanna say JohnnyDel or Mafioso) got George Anastasia to join the old board.
First post Anastasia sees is Maggio saying he fucked a kid in the ass or some shit like that. Anastasia never came back.
See, I do miss that crazy shit
"Do you think Ralph is a little weird about women?"
Charlie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:30 am
Funniest shit was when someone (I wanna say JohnnyDel or Mafioso) got George Anastasia to join the old board.
First post Anastasia sees is Maggio saying he fucked a kid in the ass or some shit like that. Anastasia never came back.
I remember him from RD, for awhile he just stopped posting. I knew he was on the elderly side and feared that he passed. I'm glad that he's still around and that he's here.
