DiCarlo / Pieri -- Youngstown affiliation?

[FriendofHenry]

Really good stuff, thanx. I didn't know of Tony's affiliation with Detroit.

[Angelo Santino]

You guys saw these, right?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

A lot of unredacted info in this one, mostly on Cleveland but a little on Youngstown:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page

These were provided to me years ago by JCB and they are very interesting and very informative. The Sicilians refers to Cleveland and the Calabrese refers to the Romeo-Mallamo crew of Pittsburgh. The informants that provided information tend to be limited to their own viewpoint which further provides a window as to how things looked to them. Most of the information such as who knew who etc are accurate. However, from my understanding- and Stroccamin' can hopefully weigh in here, Jack White who inherited YT and Warren from Frank Camarata (as per the file- the name isn't ringing a bell to me right now) was already semi-retired by the 1960's, leaving Tony Del to oversee the area. Furthermore, by the 1960's Cleveland didn't have many remaining members in Youngstown, certainly not a permanently established crew like Pittsburgh had, instead you had guys with interests there, and Cleveland's rep was in that city was an unmade associate Ronald Carrabia. It would seem that Cleveland was ceding YT to other groups based on their allowing their members there to dwindle but that's likely part of the larger trend that went on under Scalish overall. Stroccos and I have wrestled with the possibility that Jack White was made in Detroit and later transferred. It seems to have been easier to transfer to Cleveland than get made there.

Stroccos has a chart he sent me that I believe listed Jack White with Detroit, it was pre-1950's I think. Perhaps he's willing to share it.

Here's a chart/map Stroccos and I did that is from around the same time period as these FBI files.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2864

[IrishDave]

JCB, thanks for clearing that up

[Stroccos]

You guys saw these, right?
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 20licavoli

A lot of unredacted info in this one, mostly on Cleveland but a little on Youngstown:
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.htm ... 2&tab=page

These were provided to me years ago by JCB and they are very interesting and very informative. The Sicilians refers to Cleveland and the Calabrese refers to the Romeo-Mallamo crew of Pittsburgh. The informants that provided information tend to be limited to their own viewpoint which further provides a window as to how things looked to them. Most of the information such as who knew who etc are accurate. However, from my understanding- and Stroccamin' can hopefully weigh in here, Jack White who inherited YT and Warren from Frank Camarata (as per the file- the name isn't ringing a bell to me right now) was already semi-retired by the 1960's, leaving Tony Del to oversee the area. Furthermore, by the 1960's Cleveland didn't have many remaining members in Youngstown, certainly not a permanently established crew like Pittsburgh had, instead you had guys with interests there, and Cleveland's rep was in that city was an unmade associate Ronald Carrabia. It would seem that Cleveland was ceding YT to other groups based on their allowing their members there to dwindle but that's likely part of the larger trend that went on under Scalish overall. Stroccos and I have wrestled with the possibility that Jack White was made in Detroit and later transferred. It seems to have been easier to transfer to Cleveland than get made there.

Stroccos has a chart he sent me that I believe listed Jack White with Detroit, it was pre-1950's I think. Perhaps he's willing to share it.

Here's a chart/map Stroccos and I did that is from around the same time period as these FBI files.
viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2864

It was no surprise jack white took over because frank Camarata married one of the licavolis sisters .

There seemed to be a few other guys who may of been made men in Youngstown area frank bruno , Charles vizzini to name a few off the top of my head . how active where they in the 60’s and who did they report to ?

The interesting thing is that carabbia was given the territory despite not being a made man

I have no idea where jack White was made , I would assume he was made in Detroit and transfers same with Leo moceri . Being al polizzi was tight with Detroit it would no big deal to transfer to Cleveland . Because weren’t the books closed ? Angelo lonardo testified the books were closed and he got delayed being made until the late 40’s

[JCB1977]

I just posted James Licavoli's partial FBI file

[JCB1977]

One FBI file said Jack Licavoli controlled Trumbull County, OH (Warren/Niles) through Tony DelSanter and answered directly to Pete Licavoli in Detroit. What I found interesting is is also stated that Pete Licavoli was connected to Mike DeAngelo who was considered the "top man" in Columbus, OH. I can say with 100% certainty that by the 1970's, there was no representation in Columbus, OH. It was also reported by Source DE T-10 that Jack Licavoli inherited Trumbull County from Frank Cammarata who was deported in the early 1960's. I also found it interesting that the same source said William "Big Bill" Lias, longtime Wheeling, WV rackets boss made weekly trips to Detroit to give envelopes to Pete Licavoli. Ironically, once Lias died and Paul "No Legs" Hankish became Wheeling, WV rackets boss, he paid Pittsburgh for decades to operate in Wheeling.

[Stroccos]

One FBI file said Jack Licavoli controlled Trumbull County, OH (Warren/Niles) through Tony DelSanter and answered directly to Pete Licavoli in Detroit. What I found interesting is is also stated that Pete Licavoli was connected to Mike DeAngelo who was considered the "top man" in Columbus, OH. I can say with 100% certainty that by the 1970's, there was no representation in Columbus, OH. It was also reported by Source DE T-10 that Jack Licavoli inherited Trumbull County from Frank Cammarata who was deported in the early 1960's. I also found it interesting that the same source said William "Big Bill" Lias, longtime Wheeling, WV rackets boss made weekly trips to Detroit to give envelopes to Pete Licavoli. Ironically, once Lias died and Paul "No Legs" Hankish became Wheeling, WV rackets boss, he paid Pittsburgh for decades to operate in Wheeling.

But wasn’t he living in Arizona ?

[JCB1977]

One FBI file said Jack Licavoli controlled Trumbull County, OH (Warren/Niles) through Tony DelSanter and answered directly to Pete Licavoli in Detroit. What I found interesting is is also stated that Pete Licavoli was connected to Mike DeAngelo who was considered the "top man" in Columbus, OH. I can say with 100% certainty that by the 1970's, there was no representation in Columbus, OH. It was also reported by Source DE T-10 that Jack Licavoli inherited Trumbull County from Frank Cammarata who was deported in the early 1960's. I also found it interesting that the same source said William "Big Bill" Lias, longtime Wheeling, WV rackets boss made weekly trips to Detroit to give envelopes to Pete Licavoli. Ironically, once Lias died and Paul "No Legs" Hankish became Wheeling, WV rackets boss, he paid Pittsburgh for decades to operate in Wheeling.

But wasn’t he living in Arizona ?

Who?

[Stroccos]

One FBI file said Jack Licavoli controlled Trumbull County, OH (Warren/Niles) through Tony DelSanter and answered directly to Pete Licavoli in Detroit. What I found interesting is is also stated that Pete Licavoli was connected to Mike DeAngelo who was considered the "top man" in Columbus, OH. I can say with 100% certainty that by the 1970's, there was no representation in Columbus, OH. It was also reported by Source DE T-10 that Jack Licavoli inherited Trumbull County from Frank Cammarata who was deported in the early 1960's. I also found it interesting that the same source said William "Big Bill" Lias, longtime Wheeling, WV rackets boss made weekly trips to Detroit to give envelopes to Pete Licavoli. Ironically, once Lias died and Paul "No Legs" Hankish became Wheeling, WV rackets boss, he paid Pittsburgh for decades to operate in Wheeling.

But wasn’t he living in Arizona ?

Who?

Pete licavoli

[JCB1977]

One FBI file said Jack Licavoli controlled Trumbull County, OH (Warren/Niles) through Tony DelSanter and answered directly to Pete Licavoli in Detroit. What I found interesting is is also stated that Pete Licavoli was connected to Mike DeAngelo who was considered the "top man" in Columbus, OH. I can say with 100% certainty that by the 1970's, there was no representation in Columbus, OH. It was also reported by Source DE T-10 that Jack Licavoli inherited Trumbull County from Frank Cammarata who was deported in the early 1960's. I also found it interesting that the same source said William "Big Bill" Lias, longtime Wheeling, WV rackets boss made weekly trips to Detroit to give envelopes to Pete Licavoli. Ironically, once Lias died and Paul "No Legs" Hankish became Wheeling, WV rackets boss, he paid Pittsburgh for decades to operate in Wheeling.

But wasn’t he living in Arizona ?

Who?

Pete licavoli

I am not sure

[B.]

You know, I totally blanked on John Tronolone in this discussion.

Tronolone was originally in Buffalo under the DiCarlo / Pieri faction and ended up being a Florida-based Cleveland member. That could point to the Pieri/DiCarlos being with Cleveland during their time in Youngstown. It still doesn't explain Sam Pieri being told to check in with "Pete" in Detroit before meeting with his brother in Youngstown, though.

Did Tronolone ever actually live in Ohio and have the circumstances of his transfer/induction into Cleveland ever been reported? He was operating in Florida fairly early but not sure when he permanently moved there.

[Stroccos]

You know, I totally blanked on John Tronolone in this discussion.

Tronolone was originally in Buffalo under the DiCarlo / Pieri faction and ended up being a Florida-based Cleveland member. That could point to the Pieri/DiCarlos being with Cleveland during their time in Youngstown. It still doesn't explain Sam Pieri being told to check in with "Pete" in Detroit before meeting with his brother in Youngstown, though.

Did Tronolone ever actually live in Ohio and have the circumstances of his transfer/induction into Cleveland ever been reported? He was operating in Florida fairly early but not sure when he permanently moved there.

tronolone was working as muscle in the 1930’s for casinos in the Cleveland area .
Yeah I believe he moved to Florida in the late 1940’s .

I always figured he was made in buffalo and transferred to Cleveland .
was He for sure made in Buffalo ?

[JCB1977]

What I know about Tronolone:

-He was born in Buffalo, NY December 12, 1910 but other Census records have him listed as being born in 1908. Obituary has him born in 1911.
-He was arrested for gambling in 1925 at the age of 15
-He had four gambling convictions by 1931
-He served as a go between for the Cleveland Family and the Commission, namely Anthony Salerno
-In 1940 according to the U.S. census, he was listed as residing in Buffalo, NY on West Avenue
-According to SA Robert Hawk of Cleveland FBI office, Tronolone moved to the Miami area in the late 1940's after arrests in Buffalo
-On September 13, 1939, he was arrested with three other people for extorting vending machine operators in Buffalo, NY (Joe DiCarlo same case)
-In 1935, he was arrested with Joseph, 25 & Sam Pieri, 24 and Anthony Perna, 23 for violation of the new Brownell Law, consorting with known underworld figures
-In 1937, he was involved in a Supreme Court Case with Joe DiCarlo for 2nd degree assault
-In January of 1945, he was indicted for gambling in Buffalo, NY along with Joe DiCarlo and a Buffalo Police Captain (later absolved)
-On January 5, 1954, the Miami Herald had an article tying Peanuts Tronolone to Sam & Joe DiCarlo along with George and John Angersola, all living in the same area of Miami Beach
-In 1954, John Angersola owned the Italian Village Restaurant in Miami Beach, where Peanuts and the DiCarlo's hung out
-In 1954, Peanuts along with his cousin, Carmen Tronolone, were arrested for gambling at Angersola's restaurant in a raid
-In the early 1960's, he ran the Tahiti Bar in Miami, a notorious gambling house frequented by Cleveland and Detroit Mobsters who had second homes in Miami Beach, also mentioned exclusively in the Kefauver Senate Rackets Committee hearings
-In the early 1960's, he ran a 23rd Street Pizzeria called Sonny's which was also a gambling drop off spot. He was arrested with Sam DiCarlo, address listed as 5363 La Gorce Dr. as well as Carmen Tronolone, Fred Antoine and Salvatore Volpe and charges were later dropped
-In the early 1960's, he also operated a newsstand for gambling across from the 127th St shopping center on Biscayne Blvd.
-In 1961, he was questioned in the murder of Louis "Babe" SIlvers along with Philly Underworld figure Benny Husick
-In 1965, his listed address in Miami was 8090 Hawthorne Ave.
-In 1965, questioned in Collins Ave "Bridge Club" gambling raid. The bridge club was known as Bridge Players Association Inc located at 17050 Collins Ave. Peanuts was with the following individuals: Frank Amato and Louis Imburgia, Pittsburgh, Willie Dentemarco (Jewel Thief), Thomas Greco, Anthony Russo, Sharky Perugine, Joseph Milstein all of NY. The club was owned by Francesco Pasquale Greco
-In 1967, Peanuts was arrested in a gambling raid along with Eddie Gold at the Beach Hotel
-He was described in many articles over the years as a "Chicago" burglar.

***Nowhere have I found that he was living in the Ohio area, not even for a few short months. I am not saying that he wasn't residing in Ohio, but he was strongly aligned with DiCarlo, Pieri and the Angersola's.

[Stroccos]

1954 Article from JCB DeCarlo / Peanuts

[JCB1977]

I saw Pieri on the list of Youngstown mafia members said to report to Jack Licavoli, but some Pittsburgh-Youngstown guys were also included on the same list and the source(s) seemed to lump all of the Sicilian guys in Youngstown into the same group. It said they all reported to Joe DiCarlo in the 1940s before he went to prison. This all seems to be based more on association than affiliation.

This all came up because I'm interested in the roots of Buffalo's different factions... I've always seen the DiCarlo-Pieris referred to as Buffalo members operating in Youngstown, though it def look like they transferred to another family.

Thanks for the help, Stroccos.

Going back to the 1940's, the real power in Youngstown were Paul Romeo, Mike Romeo, Dominic Mallamo, Vincenzo Prato and Dominic Prato...All Calabrians. DiCarlo was ran out of town.