Skinny Ted

[Targenmantarian]

Sorry* kid will die in there.

[Pete]

Allie Boy will be the boss till he's dead at least in a tititular sense.

Teddy would be the permanent acting boss and or street boss. Andy Mush isn't going to live forever.

The problem the Colombo's have is that Persicos just don't stay free. And while the FBI has pulled back the Persicos are like Gottis to the feds. Pokeman. Gotta catch em all.

Has it been confirmed Allie is the boss now that Carmine died?

[gohnjotti]

Allie Boy will be the boss till he's dead at least in a tititular sense.

Teddy would be the permanent acting boss and or street boss. Andy Mush isn't going to live forever.

The problem the Colombo's have is that Persicos just don't stay free. And while the FBI has pulled back the Persicos are like Gottis to the feds. Pokeman. Gotta catch em all.

Has it been confirmed Allie is the boss now that Carmine died?

Not yet, it's just an assumption.

[Targenmantarian]

Allie Boy will be the boss till he's dead at least in a tititular sense.

Teddy would be the permanent acting boss and or street boss. Andy Mush isn't going to live forever.

The problem the Colombo's have is that Persicos just don't stay free. And while the FBI has pulled back the Persicos are like Gottis to the feds. Pokeman. Gotta catch em all.

Has it been confirmed Allie is the boss now that Carmine died?

Not yet, it's just an assumption.

Have any of the five fams ditched their imprisoned for life bosses?

I guess Pete Gotti took himself out with his release request.

But Amuso and Persico still are and were the officials. Chin stayed up till he died right? Only reason Bonnanos dropped Massino was the ratting thing.

I feel like even if the boss being locked up forever is unwieldy or monetarily inconvenient they never want to take them down in name because it's a signal to the feds that they won and to other made guys that they can replace a sitting boss whenever they go inside. Slippery slope.

[Etna]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

[Pogo The Clown]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

If he wants to talk to Daniel he will need a Ouija board.


Pogo

[Etna]

Oh that's right!

[Pete]

Allie Boy will be the boss till he's dead at least in a tititular sense.

Teddy would be the permanent acting boss and or street boss. Andy Mush isn't going to live forever.

The problem the Colombo's have is that Persicos just don't stay free. And while the FBI has pulled back the Persicos are like Gottis to the feds. Pokeman. Gotta catch em all.

Has it been confirmed Allie is the boss now that Carmine died?

Not yet, it's just an assumption.

Has anyone been named official boss while serving a life sentence? I think that would be a first. I did assume the same thing tho that it would be Allie

[gohnjotti]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

[SonnyBlackstein]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

Michael Persico is out late this year.
Wonder what happens with him.

[gohnjotti]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

Michael Persico is out late this year.
Wonder what happens with him.

His position as the "legitimate" son, who used his empty criminal record to pass messages across federal prisons to mobsters on the street, is probably over. He will still have weight in the crime family, naturally, but he will no longer be able to use his legitimacy cover. Angelo Spata seemed to be doing a lot of that message-carrying in Persico's later years on the street anyways, so it might not be too big a problem.

[SonnyBlackstein]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

Michael Persico is out late this year.
Wonder what happens with him.

His position as the "legitimate" son, who used his empty criminal record to pass messages across federal prisons to mobsters on the street, is probably over. He will still have weight in the crime family, naturally, but he will no longer be able to use his legitimacy cover. Angelo Spata seemed to be doing a lot of that message-carrying in Persico's later years on the street anyways, so it might not be too big a problem.

Agree that his ‘undercover’ work is now well and truly behind him. Especially with that last name. Hence I find him possibly quite interesting in whether he goes all in and gets his button and carries on the family tradition, or pulls away completely.
Watch this space.

[gohnjotti]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

Michael Persico is out late this year.
Wonder what happens with him.

His position as the "legitimate" son, who used his empty criminal record to pass messages across federal prisons to mobsters on the street, is probably over. He will still have weight in the crime family, naturally, but he will no longer be able to use his legitimacy cover. Angelo Spata seemed to be doing a lot of that message-carrying in Persico's later years on the street anyways, so it might not be too big a problem.

Agree that his ‘undercover’ work is now well and truly behind him. Especially with that last name. Hence I find him possibly quite interesting in whether he goes all in and gets his button and carries on the family tradition, or pulls away completely.
Watch this space.

I truly don't think there is any chance he will be made. There is no point whatsoever. He gets all the respect of a made member. The only reason Angelo Spata had to be made was because the Gambinos were belittling him in sit-downs over Brooklyn's Italian feasts. Michael Persico doesn't have that problem. He has always carried the weight of a made guy, even a captain. For example, he served in a de facto "acting captain" capacity for his father in the 1990s and his brother Allie later in the decades, and in 2008 and 2009, he was a de facto member of the family's ruling panel. His cousin Skinny Teddy, another member of the family's ruling panel, let it slip to an undercover informant that any murders he wanted to commit had to go past Michael first.

[SonnyBlackstein]

3 years supervised release? With his track record, he's bound to violate. He can't even talk to his brothers Daniel or Carmine, can he?

There are exemptions for family, even cousins.

Michael Persico is out late this year.
Wonder what happens with him.

His position as the "legitimate" son, who used his empty criminal record to pass messages across federal prisons to mobsters on the street, is probably over. He will still have weight in the crime family, naturally, but he will no longer be able to use his legitimacy cover. Angelo Spata seemed to be doing a lot of that message-carrying in Persico's later years on the street anyways, so it might not be too big a problem.

Agree that his ‘undercover’ work is now well and truly behind him. Especially with that last name. Hence I find him possibly quite interesting in whether he goes all in and gets his button and carries on the family tradition, or pulls away completely.
Watch this space.

I truly don't think there is any chance he will be made. There is no point whatsoever. He gets all the respect of a made member. The only reason Angelo Spata had to be made was because the Gambinos were belittling him in sit-downs over Brooklyn's Italian feasts. Michael Persico doesn't have that problem. He has always carried the weight of a made guy, even a captain. For example, he served in a de facto "acting captain" capacity for his father in the 1990s and his brother Allie later in the decades, and in 2008 and 2009, he was a de facto member of the family's ruling panel. His cousin Skinny Teddy, another member of the family's ruling panel, let it slip to an undercover informant that any murders he wanted to commit had to go past Michael first.

Fair call but I’d disagree. Being made still carries the ultimate weight. A last name cannot equal membership, when push comes to shove. The legitimacy of the organization itself would be called into question. Being made and it’s power is a self serving exercise. To subtract from that is to subtract from the whole model itself.
I would doubt Michael would get made, basis a certain future behind bars, but that family is about power alone, consequence be damned, so whilst I doubt it, I would not be surprised and consider it although unlikely, a possibility.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Michaels utility, and to some degree the associated power, was in his legitimacy. With the loss of that legitimacy, I think he’s lost his utility. So will he accept that, or attempt to retain power and influence, which would leave the only door open to doing so, in gaining membership.
IMO.